Tim,

Did you have to enable the cache on the Beige when you dropped a G4 in 
there? What brand?

James

On Sunday, March 2, 2003, at 07:25 PM, Tim Maloney wrote:

> I took an original 233 G3 Beige DT, upgraded with a 350 G3 before it 
> got to
> me, and put in a 400 G4 which runs at 420 mhz. 768 megs megs ram(3 256
> Dimms), 6 megs vram(4 meg upgrade to onboard vram), 30 gig IDE drive, 
> 32X
> CDROM, and it runs Jaguar great.
>
> The best thing about this machine is I can upgrade it feasibly, there 
> is
> even a dual proc upgrade for it, though that one would be expensive 
> and hard
> to find used.
>
> However it runs OSX great and currently needs no upgrades in my 
> opinion. It
> is a nice machine if you want to get into OSX cheaply and be able to 
> upgrade
> for a while before your machine becomes obsolete.
>
> I recently sold an 8500 (ZIF carrier and 350 G3, 8 meg IX3D card, 27 
> gig ide
> drive, ata/66 card, USB card, 336 ram) and as soon as I'm able my moms
> Powercenter(266 G3, 403 ram, 16 meg ATI card, ATA card and 30 gig ide 
> drive,
> 32X cdrom, usb card) will be sold and a Beige G3 will replace it.
>
> Less trouble since my mom lives in Ohio and using a beige would 
> eliminate at
> least the Unsupported issues that I have to deal with, though they are 
> not
> many.
>
>
> On 3/2/03 3:18 PM, "Roger Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Mark,
>>
>> I concur with Mr. Alcacid. I have several PCI Macs and have upgraded 
>> and
>> run OSX on acouple of them. Unlike Mr. Alcacid, I did not have trouble
>> running OSX. But! OSX was Too much for the upgrades I installed and
>> performance was poor. I feel that it cost way too much to get one of 
>> the
>> PCI Macs in good OSX condition. I have a couple of stock 266 Beige G3s
>> that run OSX just fine, with plenty of memory. A fast HD and a 400 or
>> faster zif makes a Beige G3 a very good OSX Mac for general use.
>>
>> MacResQ has the Desktop G3 266, 128 mb, 4gig, 24x CD for $200.
>> http://www.macresq.com/store/specials.php    you can't beat that for a
>> great cheap system.
>>
>> Roger Harris
>>
>> James Alcasid wrote:
>>
>>> The story is much different as a far as a BeigeG3, but eve these
>>> machines are on the border of a supported config for MacOSX. I
>>> certainly did not have an issue with reliability on the BeigeG3 
>>> however.
>>>
>>> If the option is open to you I would recommend a BeigeG3 over 
>>> upgrading
>>> a PCI PowerMac. I have a lot of nostalgia for the PCI Macs, I have 
>>> four
>>> of them. I I cannot recommend upgrading a PCI PowerMac especially if
>>> your intention is to run MacOSX.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 1, 2003, at 08:01 PM, mark wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've seen people mention that theres a limit of a G4/400 or G3/800 
>>>> on
>>>> a G3
>>>> model. But you can get a G4/800 for a PCI PowerPC. How so? Does this
>>>> limitation mean that something like a 9500 is a better cheap Mac 
>>>> than
>>>> a G3
>>>> for future upgrades? Especially if you intend putting OSX on it?
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