On 06.09.2005, at 00:07, macfan wrote:

I have a curiosity question for everyone on this list about maintaining unsupported OS X Macs. About every 3 or 4 months one of my unsupported Macs goes down and I end up having to reinstall the OS X System Software. This is a real pain especially in my Power Macintosh 8500s as I have to take them all apart and swap the CD burner for a high speed Apple Drive to reinstall the OS X software. I know there are two keys to solving this problem: 1. Backing up and 2. A good disk repair utility. Both of these keys present problems in and of themselves. On the back up side I only know of one piece of software that might work with an unsupported OS X System install, Carbon Copy Cloner. I was hoping SuperDuper might work but when I emailed the author he stated he wasn't too sure about that and that even if it would it would probably take the help of the Carbon Copy Cloner software to get the clone copy to boot. The Dantz, Retrospect web site states that Retrospect won't see all of the invisible files of an unsupported install. So my first question is what is everyone using to back up an unsupported OS X install? Then comes the problem of a disk utility. First off, I find the Apple Disk Utility about useless and it won't work on a boot volume anyway. I have also found its unix cousin about the same as well as a little dangerous as I have come out with more problems than I started with after using it. I have tries Norton Disk Utilities but find it hit and miss and more miss than hit. I have just ordered DiskWarrior and can't wait to try that. All of these utilities on CD though have an inherent problem that I haven't figured out a way around. None of them will boot up the computer from the CD to repair it because to start our systems you need a "hacked"system. My second question then is what disk repair utility are you using and what version? Then part two of that question is how are you booting from it so that you can repair you boot drive? Thank you in advance for all of your help and suggestions.

Bob K.


hi,

seems something is wrong with the box ure using. I ran und run Panther on Umax clones, 7600 and beige G3s. One beige G3 is a server runing 24/7 for about 9 months with no need to fiddle on it.

For backups I use Disk Utility booted from the cd via xpf and a Firewire Drive - also I do not install X on those machines, I copy back installations created with supported Macs - copied to the firewire drive - and run xpf over them.

I'd sort out ram sticks on your box. X is very sensitive treating Ram.


hth
Sven

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