On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Mike Frysinger <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 16:39, Jie Zhang wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 23:45, Jie Zhang wrote:
>>>> Attached is a patch which should keep the dependencies accurate
>>>> without reintroducing the issue the user reported: "remove *.lo
>>>> twice". The idea comes from BFD.
>>>
>>> i dont think this is an improvement at all.  this is exactly the kind
>>> of stuff i dont think should be anywhere in the source build files.
>>
>> This is the way documented in Automake manual to deal with such situation.
>
> sorry, but where ?  i'm not seeing these kind of rules in the manual.
>
http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending

[quote]
Note that Automake does not make any distinction between rules with
commands and rules that only specify dependencies. So it is not
possible to append new dependencies to an automake-defined target
without redefining the entire rule.
[/quote]

So when we add those bison generated head files to the dependencies,
we should redefine the entire rule.

>>> the only thing wrong with my patch is that some .o files have an
>>> unnecessary dependency on these generated files.  in practice, i dont
>>> think this matters at all.  i did this so that we wouldnt have to
>>> maintain a list of object files (which might change names if libtool
>>> changes behavior).
>>
>> But there is nothing known wrong with my patch.
>
> what you posted is not really maintainable.  i could post a new
> version of my simple patch which simply lists the exact objects and
> thus there wouldnt be anything wrong either, but i honestly dont think
> it makes any real world difference, and people will be able to
> understand either with a simple `make` background.
>
If there are better fix, why not use it?

>> The issue you are
>> worried about is in the future. It might come, it might not. I don't
>> think automake and libtool change a lot nowadays. So I don't think we
>> should worry about it. Anyway we can fix it when it unfortunately
>> happens.
>
> the code shouldnt require autotool experts to understand/fix.  i'm
> afraid what you've posted would scare almost everyone from trying to
> touch it.
>
No, you don't need to be an autotool expert to understand/fix it. I
never think I'm an autotool expert. The possible changes in the future
might be:

* Automake is improved so we don't need to do that. Then we can remove
it. But if we don't remove it, it will still not break things.
* Automake changes some variables used in the rules in the patch. We
can just take a look at the generated rules in Makefile.in to see what
a new rule looks like and modify accordingly.
* We don't use autotools and change to some other solution. Then we
don't need to care about this.

So don't be scared away. :-)


Jie

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