Many years ago I have started working on Libgreat Tao, but I forgot about this project very quickly.
I try to find little spare of time and public source code of my library. Sławomir Lach, Poland. Dnia 2010-09-08, śro o godzinie 13:39 +0800, Allan Caeg pisze: > I like it. > > I'll tell Celeste about this later. Is that okay? :) > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Kirk Bridger <[email protected]> wrote: > I think there are two paths to start down: > > 1 - Find a pattern library we all like and want to grow > from/use. "We all" being the various desktop teams. This > would be a cross-team initiative so we may need to start with > just getting representation. > > 2 - Begin/continue building the Gnome library based on the > existing pattern approach in the newest HIG. There may be > some changes made to the HIG page template if we look at it > from the point of view of instantiating a pattern. Reference > the pattern rather than recreate it - delve into the details > of the solution. > > > Perhaps a third path: document and clarify the difference > between the two things. Gain acceptance of this approach with > other desktop teams, etc. > > > The third one might be the most important to start right now. > I'll certainly offer to help out with #3 to begin with! > > How does this sound? Any thoughts, refinements, or other > ideas? > > > Kirk > > > > On 09/07/2010 08:28 PM, Allan Caeg wrote: > > I agree with Kirk. The two desktops can share the same UI > > patterns, but they may have different "components" or > > whatever it's called. > > > > Where do you think can we start? > > > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Kirk Bridger > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm actually tackling a similar problem in my "real > > job" right now. > > > > I foundthis to be an interesting look at what a > > pattern library is and what it should not be. It's > > a quick read that could then lead to an interesting > > discussion. > > > > For example, button ordering might not belong at the > > level of a pattern as it doesn't really describe a > > problem and solution, but rather an implementation > > of a component (or whatever term can be used). > > > > So perhaps the pattern library itself could be > > cross-desktop, and a more implementation-focused > > library be created for each of the various desktops? > > > > If we're setting the pattern library to be so high > > level though it really behooves us to look at the > > other pattern libraries out there to see if we could > > just adopt an existing one rather than re-inventing > > the wheel. > > > > Kirk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 09/06/2010 11:28 PM, Allan Caeg wrote: > > > Hello! > > > > > > Remember the Compliance to GNOME UI Patterns of > > > Cross-Platform Apps thread? I emailed Celeste Lyn > > > Paul from the KDE Usability team about the > > > possibility of working on a cross-desktop UI > > > Pattern library. This way, Cross-platform apps > > > like Firefox would conform to UI patterns that are > > > applicable to different desktop environments and > > > it may mean more people working on the UI Pattern > > > Library. Looks like she's interested. > > > > > > How do you think can we do this? Also, who else > > > (other than KDE usability) do we communicate with? > > > > > > You can find Celeste's email below. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Allan > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > From: Celeste Lyn Paul <[email protected]> > > > Date: Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:30 AM > > > Subject: Re: UI Patterns of Cross-Platform Apps > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > Hi Allan, > > > > > > KDE has a few patterns listed in the HIG. It is a > > > project we started 3 > > > years ago, but lost the contributors who were > > > working on them. I think > > > having a cross-desktop library of UI patterns is a > > > great idea. Let me > > > know how Gnome plans on working this out with > > > other projects. > > > > > > ~ Celeste > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Celeste Lyn Paul > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone. > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > > > > > From: Allan Caeg <[email protected]> > > > > Date: September 3, 2010 2:50:06 EDT > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: UI Patterns of Cross-Platform Apps > > > > > > > > Hello Celeste, > > > > > > > > The GNOME Usability Team is currently working on > > > UI Patterns (see > > > > http://live.gnome.org/UsabilityProject/HIG3 , > > > > http://live.gnome.org/User%20Interface% > > > 20Patterns , and > > > > http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/ui-patterns). My work > > > as the UX Advocate for > > > > Firefox exposed an issue related to it. I > > > started a discussion with GNOME > > > > Usability people on whether or not > > > cross-platform apps should follow the UI > > > > Patterns. They seem to agree that cross-platform > > > apps should comply to the > > > > patterns. > > > > > > > > My concern now is for other environments > > > especially KDE. I believe that we > > > > can work together in generating UI patterns. > > > This way, we can make > > > > cross-platform apps comply so they will fit > > > nicely in KDE and GNOME. I don't > > > > specialize in toolkits, but it seems that a > > > shared UI Pattern Library could > > > > work. > > > > > > > > What do you think can we do? :) > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Allan Caeg > > > > http://www.google.com/profiles/allancaeg#about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Celeste Lyn Paul > > > KDE Usability Project > > > KDE e.V. Board of Directors > > > www.kde.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > usability mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability > > > > _______________________________________________ > > usability mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Allan > > http://www.google.com/profiles/allancaeg#about > > +63 918 948 2520 > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Allan > http://www.google.com/profiles/allancaeg#about > +63 918 948 2520 > > _______________________________________________ > usability mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability _______________________________________________ usability mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
