Well said.

There is help on this.

On of the list members will jump in i guess and he made an excellent tool which will help you out notarizing and all other stuff Apple tries to kill you with.

If you already have a Apple dev account (only 100$ per year) which gives you the ability to help 100 people(am i correct?) (thought there was an option for 1000??) then this tool will help you do these things and you can go on with coding as before.

I also put stuff on Google Play which is not intended for everybody, but i use a password combination, just like banks do with their apps. Their apps are also not for everyone, but only they who have an account.

You could do that too, so only people with access credentials can access the app.

Indeed you gave a few reasons why i choose not to develop for Apple, unless i can make enough money with it which compensates for it.


Jerry(Sphere)

Op 7-9-2019 om 13:18 schreef Peter Reid via use-livecode:
I've been using LiveCode as my development platform since 1999. Practically all the apps 
I've developed have been for in-house use by my family, friends and customers - all very 
low numbers of copies distributed in an informal manner. I've no interest in App Store 
distribution and the users of my apps trust me such that they do not need my apps to be 
"approved" by Apple. What's more important to them is how quickly I can release 
new apps and new versions of existing apps.

Up to and including macOS Mojave my users can run my apps with the minor 
inconvenience of having to right-click an app and approve its use, just once. 
With macOS Catalina, if I understand things, it's not so simple, instead these 
are the options:

1. Code-sign and notarise my apps – I'm not interested in this for my kind of 
apps which are essentially in-house/at home developments.

2. Using an active Internet connection, go through the right-click technique as 
now not just once, but EVERY time the app is opened.

In the past the 'Security & Privacy' General tab had a 3rd option for the 
setting 'Allow apps downloaded from:' which allowed you to install and use apps 
from any source. It seems that this is not possible with Catalina.

So with Catalina my users will need an Internet connection and will have to go 
through the right-click authorisation process every time they open one of my 
apps.

More seriously, it is becoming increasingly difficult to recommend the 
combination of the Mac plus LiveCode for app development. Up to now I've done 
all my app development on Mac+LC, even where the target platform is Windows or 
Android or Linux – I find it's simply faster, less error-prone and more 
pleasant with the Mac. However, from Catalina onwards even simple little 
utility apps, created for short-term use, will be tedious when opening or you 
have to learn about the complexity of code-signing and notarising and accept 
slower development cycles due to the need for Apple's approval!

This is quite depressing, especially since I abandoned iOS development due to 
Apple's distribution restrictions.

Back when the iPad 2 had just been released I developed for one of my customers an app 
to support health & safety audits for a national UK retail chain. The app took me 
15 days to develop in total. As a result of being able to field a team of 10-20 staff 
with iPads running my app, my customer was able to carry out 350 half-day H&S 
audits for 3 years. However I was unable to roll-out this app to other customers as the 
ad hoc distribution method I was using was limited to 100 iPads per year and the App 
Store was not appropriate for this type of app.

As a result of the limitations Apple impose on tablet app distribution, 
recently I developed a speech-aid app just for small Android tablets and larger 
phones. I have not made an iOS app. This app is low volume (in terms of number 
of users) and requires significant personalising in order to be effective for 
its users (typically they are stroke victims). I chose to deliver the app on 
Android because of the facility to use developer mode and because of price – 
Android 7in tablet plus minimal add-ons: £80, Apple iPad plus add-ons: £320. 
Some of my users of this app already have an iPad but they are having to buy a 
cheap Android tablet. Like the Mac and Catalina, the iPad and iOS is driving 
away potential app developers due to Apple's rigid control of the delivery 
mechanisms.

Maybe I'm wrong, Catalina will be OK – if I am wrong, please correct me!

Regards

Peter
--
Peter Reid
Loughborough, UK


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