Thanks, Richard! RevIgniter also looks like something I should explore. Would a program that needs to produce graphs be practical? My current work requires various plots of earth data. Just wondering if I could think about getting it on a web server.
Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org > On Oct 20, 2020, at 6:30 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > When you are, you're in good company. Just let us know if you get stuck on > anything and we'll get your server running in no time. > > 'Tween now and then, you might want to check out this blog post on a nice > addition to LC Server added a couple years back, letting you use LC as a > general purpose command-line language in addition to how most people use it > as a PHP replacement: > https://livecode.com/livecode-server/ > > This blog post may help spark ideas for how to put LC to work on system > monitoring and other tasks: > https://livecode.com/keeping-an-eye-on-your-server/ > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems > > > William Prothero wrote: >> Thanks, Richard. Good info. I’m not quite ready to jump in on this yet, but >> soon, and probably with Trevore’s Levure app. >> Best, >> Bill >> William A. Prothero >> https://earthlearningsolutions.org >>>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:03 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode >>>> <use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: >>> prothero wrote: >>> > I’ve been thinking about experimenting with Livecode server. I have >>> > a vps and root access, but I’m wondering what are the speed and user >>> > consequences of installing it at root level, or as a cgi. The cgi is >>> > fairly large and I’m concerned about both speed and memory issues when >>> > multiple users are accessing it. >>> > >>> > I know this has been discussed in the past, but would appreciate any >>> > advice based on recent experience. >>> CGIs are CGIs, whether configured for all users via admin access to Apache >>> config, or for individual users on a shared host via .htacces. >>> Also, the size on disk is not reflective of real-world RAM requirements. >>> You can check RAM requirements in Terminal by calling the engine with a >>> simple script using the timing tool located at /usr/bin/time: >>> /user/bin/time -v /path/to/your/lcserver somescript.lc >>> The -v flag is for "verbose", listing a wide range of runtime stats >>> including "Maximum resident set size" and "Average resident set size", with >>> "set size" referring to physical RAM used. >>> For example, running that on the script I posted earlier for my example CGI >>> yields: >>> User time (seconds): 0.02 >>> System time (seconds): 0.02 >>> Percent of CPU this job got: 97% >>> Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 0:00.04 >>> Average shared text size (kbytes): 0 >>> Average unshared data size (kbytes): 0 >>> Average stack size (kbytes): 0 >>> Average total size (kbytes): 0 >>> Maximum resident set size (kbytes): 19728 >>> Average resident set size (kbytes): 0 >>> Major (requiring I/O) page faults: 0 >>> Minor (reclaiming a frame) page faults: 1526 >>> Voluntary context switches: 1 >>> Involuntary context switches: 0 >>> Swaps: 0 >>> File system inputs: 0 >>> File system outputs: 0 >>> Socket messages sent: 0 >>> Socket messages received: 0 >>> Signals delivered: 0 >>> Page size (bytes): 4096 >>> Exit status: 0 >>> Separate from anything to do with LC, there is a modest performance >>> difference between using .htacess and making those directives available to >>> all users in Apache config: if you don't enable mod_rewrite, Apache doesn't >>> need to scan folders for .htaccess files. This is a VERY minor difference, >>> however, and if you need the flexibility of mod_rewrite you should use it. >>> But FWIW most production servers set things up in Apache config, and since >>> you're not limited to the issues with shared hosting you might as well do >>> it the standard way. It's more work, and you'll be using sudo a lot since >>> permissions are tighter. But for a production server, more restrictive >>> permissions are exactly what we want. >>> -- >>> Richard Gaskin >>> Fourth World Systems >>> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web >>> ____________________________________________________________________ >>> Ambassador at FourthWorld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
