I don't think it needs to store ALL the permutations, only the viable ones, the ones that lead to success. That has to be a much smaller number. But I was using that as an example of the mathematical nature of Chess. I think what we must mean by AI is that through recursion, a computer can retain successful paths to success (success being that which we define as success in the process.) I don't think we will ever see the day where a computer, lacking experience and all the data for a problem, can "reason" it's way to success.
Bob S > On Jan 23, 2023, at 23:26 , Geoff Canyon via use-livecode > <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 4:09 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> Meh. Don't like using Chess as a measurement of AI competence. Chess is in >> AI's wheelhouse. Once a computer can store all the possible permutations of >> chess, >> > > I agree on the sentiment, but a small point: the state-space of Chess is > about 10^44 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_complexity>. No computer > has, or foreseeably will, store all the possible permutations. It's the > nature of machine learning that it's pretty much impossible for us to > understand what something like AlphaZero > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaZero> *does* store, but it's not > anything like "in this position, play this move". Further, it appears > AlphaZero used 16GB of memory. It looks like Stockfish 10 (which I think is > considered stronger than AlphaZero) can use more, but will operate in 16GB > of memory as well. > > gc > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
