I don't think you can hope for that. It's not a bug, its a change in the way 
they are implementing menus.

Best Regards,

Heather

Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
LiveCode Ltd
www.livecode.com



> On 12 Oct 2023, at 18:10, Bill Vlahos <bvla...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Heather,
> 
> Do you think Apple will address this issue in an update to Sonoma?
> 
> Rebuilding all my applications will be difficult.
> 
> Thank you,
> Bill Vlahos
> 
>> On Oct 3, 2023, at 6:56 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Matthias,
>> 
>> I think ANY menu will cause a crash. |f your app has no menus it will not be 
>> affected by the issue. Otherwise, it will crash, as does LiveCode itself  
>> prior to the fix.
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> Heather
>> 
>> Heather Laine
>> Customer Services Manager
>> LiveCode Ltd
>> www.livecode.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 Oct 2023, at 11:53, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Heather,
>>> 
>>> thanks for clarifying the reason for the crashes.
>>> 
>>> At least this grants that standalones created with older LC versions will 
>>> run as long as they do not contain a customized menu, right?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Matthias
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Am 03.10.2023 um 12:24 schrieb Heather Laine via use-livecode 
>>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Rolf,
>>>> 
>>>> No, the problem is not related to signing. The problem centers on how 
>>>> Sonoma handles menus, and any app that contains a menu will crash on 
>>>> Sonoma unless built with LiveCode 9.6.10 or 10 dp-6.
>>>> 
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Heather
>>>> 
>>>> Heather Laine
>>>> Customer Services Manager
>>>> LiveCode Ltd
>>>> www.livecode.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 3 Oct 2023, at 09:53, Rolf Kocherhans via use-livecode 
>>>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> @Matthias and the Mothership,
>>>>> 
>>>>> My Apple Developer account expired several years ago, and I'm facing a 
>>>>> critical issue with one of my LiveCode Apps, Clarify, developed by Trevor 
>>>>> DeVore. This app is extremely important to me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately, Clarify is no longer actively developed and has started 
>>>>> crashing with Sonoma. I am wondering if there's a possibility to resolve 
>>>>> this issue by signing the bundles. I am more than willing to invest in a 
>>>>> new subscription with Apple if that's what it takes – I can't imagine my 
>>>>> work without Clarify.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Could someone please test if signing the bundles might make an app 
>>>>> functional again?
>>>>> Your assistance in this matter would mean the world to me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Rolf
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 30.09.2023 um 18:00 schrieb use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe my observation is not the reason for the crash. Would really not 
>>>>> make sense, when an unsigned app would crash instead of reporting an 
>>>>> alert.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But code signing  the complete Livecode app bundle would proof it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Did someone btw had a look at the system log file after the crash?
>>>>> 
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