Well said Mark!

Graham


> On 9 Sep 2015, at 10:30, Mark Waddingham <m...@livecode.com> wrote:
> 
>> I do think, even if only as a sop to those of us (like myself) who get
>> fed up how RunRev, for all their ballyhoo about China and so forth,
>> do seem to give the impression that they don't really seem to think
>> outside a North Atlantic box, the survey would have looked a bit
>> more friendly if it had left a chance open for participants to suggest
>> other cities in other states/countries than those forced as choices
>> on participants.
> 
> To be blunt Richmond, it doesn't take a great deal of thought to understand 
> *why* there is a restricted choice. Indeed, I think people before me have 
> already explained adequately why. However, let me reiterate in perhaps 
> slightly more detail:
> 
> The point of a conference is that people attend.
> 
> If people are to go to a conference then they need to be able to afford to do 
> so.
> 
> If you hold a conference somewhere where the cost to get there exceeds 
> someone's ability to pay those costs, they won't go.
> 
> If you hold a conference somewhere where the ticket price has to exceed 
> someone's ability to pay that cost, they won't go.
> 
> Therefore, you need to ensure that you hold the conference in a location 
> where the most number of people who are likely to attend can attend.
> 
> Bearing in mind we have a pretty good map of the locations of the majority of 
> LiveCode users who we would class as 'likely to attend if they can', it isn't 
> a difficult thing to work out where the optimal places to hold it might be.
> 
> In regards to why Edinburgh (UK) and not somewhere else in Europe. Then, 
> again, that is an economic imperative. Whilst getting to the main aviation 
> hubs in the Western part of Western Europe (Amsterdam, Paris etc.) is perhaps 
> no more difficult than getting to those in the UK, if we hold the conference 
> in Europe rather than Edinburgh than we have to:
>   1) Only take a restricted set of staff.
>   2) Pay for transporting said staff to the European location.
>   3) Pay for feeding, and housing said staff at the European location.
> 
> This latter cost means that (comparatively speaking) the ticket cost of the 
> conference would have to be greater as it has to cover the costs of running 
> the conference (the staff being there being quite an important aspect of 
> this).
> 
> Now, of course, it costs more to transit staff to the US (although perhaps 
> not to house!) than Europe; however, we have more users in the US who are 
> 'likely to attend' so the expected tickets sales if we have the conference in 
> the US is higher in the UK.
> 
> Basically, where a conference is held is entirely a numbers game.
> 
> Sure, we could throw in a couple of 'lets make people feel fluffy questions' 
> into such a survey (which wouldn't really give any useful data at all) but 
> that would just make the survey longer. The longer the survey, the less 
> responses you get, thus the less accurate the results you get. Again, it all 
> comes down to numbers.
> 
> Mark.
> 
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