Whichever way one cuts things, the most widely used programming languages such as PASCAL and C++ are as FREE as the air. As long as a language remains Unfree it is unlikely to be adopted widely. While Runtime Revolution / Livecode have, until comparatively recently, only had a closed source version of their programming environment, they have almost always had a "cheap way in" in the form of a lines-of-code-limited version, or a stacks-only-version; and had they not they wouldn't have got as far as they did before they released their open source version.

At the moment I cannot entirely understand what the 'problem' is. There is a FREE version of Livecode which to all intents and purposes is a very large subset of an Unfree version. The FREE version is so powerful that any "hobbyist" (a very, very fuzzy category if ever there was: a 'hobbyist' is a bit like the boy who buys a small box of Lego bits . . .) should be fully satisfied.

Richmond.

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