Bouncing is highly unusual for cloud based mail systems as it is now an 
ineffective method for spam systems to remove obsolete emails, and malicious 
spammers can use this to clean up their databases by purging the bounced 
emails, or trolling for valid email accounts. It can also be used as a 
distributed denial of service mechanism. Newer mail systems will just drop the 
email unless otherwise configured. Exchange defaults to bouncing. 

Bob S


> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:01 , Colin Holgate <colinholg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I’m using Mail, and my provider is Verizon. I checked my settings online, and 
> they do have an option where they delete spam automatically. I’ve changed 
> that to have it save the messages in a spamdetecter folder. I should be able 
> to see which messages are coming from the LiveCode lists.
> 
> Still not sure that any mail system would pretend to bounce the message, 
> instead of just blocking it.
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:53 PM, J. Landman Gay <jac...@hyperactivesw.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Typically the hosting service handles the spam filtering before your email 
>> client gets it. That's the filter I was referring to. GMail users may not 
>> have the same options though.
>> 
>> On 11/17/16 1:31 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:
>>> That would make sense if you had spam system that sent back a rejection 
>>> message. I don’t use spam filters, I just let some emails go into Mail’s 
>>> Junk mailbox. But I’ve also had the excessive bounce message a few times.
>>> 
>>> For what it’s worth, my Junk mailbox currently has four emails from Roger 
>>> Eller, one from Jan Schenkel, and two copies of the same email from the 
>>> LiveCode team.
>>> 
>>> The LiveCode team ones look like adverts, but the other messages seem 
>>> harmless.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:26 PM, J. Landman Gay <jac...@hyperactivesw.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/17/16 1:15 PM, Jacques Clavel wrote:
>>>>> The problem is that all seems to be normal for me, no problem at all, I
>>>>> just received an email (the third) from use-livecode-request which says
>>>>> (see below). I re-enabled my membership by using the first link and I
>>>>> received again the messages from the list.
>>>>> Can I do something to help to solve the problem?
>>>> 
>>>> I wonder if the problem is over-aggressive spam filtering. If a spam 
>>>> filter bounces the list mail back to Mailman, you'd have "excessive 
>>>> bounces".
>>>> 
>>>> I am not having the problem. In my cPanel I have spam filtering set to the 
>>>> default average level (5) and I receive list mails individually. I think 
>>>> sometimes the digest can appear as spam and that might cause a bounce. So 
>>>> I wonder if those people who are getting unsubscribed are receiving the 
>>>> digest? If you try receiving individual messages, do you still get the 
>>>> warning?
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Jacqueline Landman Gay         |     jac...@hyperactivesw.com
>>>> HyperActive Software           |     http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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