Hi Bill

I am doing a completely quiet launch for 1.0 to avoid negative reviews. I just 
did not have a mechanism to do a bunch of beta tests - and I really did not 
realize how confusing it would be at first.

By 1.1, I should be okay to start reaching out to local high schools - my first 
target users.

I agree this could be great for education. I plan to work with teachers to 
build templates for a variety of lesson plans. I also plan to create a child 
mode for young users by version 1.5.

I agree about the user login experience - I am going to stay up late tonight 
working on that and get it cleaned up.

Pretty much everything is available through the Universal button. After you 
fill in the form, you press the universal button again to have the submit 
option.

This method appears to be confusing though, so I will have to also include some 
of those buttons I had removed.

They were there previously, but my interface was so cluttered I might have 
swung too far to the opposite side.

Thanks sooooo much for your time on this,

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 4:43 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Jonathon:
> I clicked the gear icon and chose “Enter new User”. I entered my info, but 
> what then? No button showed to accept my input or register me.
> 
> So…. I suggest you revamp/rethink your login system. It’s very important 
> because it’s the first thing a new user sees and if she is frustrated, you 
> are sunk. You may even want to consider having a “browse” mode where a user 
> can see certain content without creating an account. Fields that aren’t 
> needed should not be shown or made dark grey. It confuses the user.
> 
> I suggest you have two buttons that are prominent on your opening page, in 
> addition to your nice graphics. One says something like “New User”, the other 
> “Log In” with text explaining “Log In” means you have an account. After the 
> system accepts the information, you get a page that verifies the  login was 
> ok, and invites you to update your profile. BTW, the profile should ask 
> specific questions, but be optional. Privacy policy? Or you could just take 
> the successfully logged in user to the first page you want them to see and 
> let the gear icon take them to their account. 
> 
> I do think some kind of “tour” or “browse” type mode would be a good idea, 
> though.
> 
> This gets me thinking about how an application like this might be education 
> oriented. Wouldn’t it be great if students from schools around the world 
> could interact and post pictures and discuss science topics? It would have to 
> have strong safety so only school children and their teachers would be 
> online. Lessons of international interest could be available or posted by 
> teachers. Students interact to see how a particular phenomenon affects their 
> locale. Just thinking aloud. I have a colleague in Malawi that teaches 
> geography, and she is very interested in teaching her students about solar 
> cooking. A great subject for her, she sent me a picture of her cooking maize 
> over a wood fire. 
> 
> Good luck with your app. I’m looking forward to new revisions. Also, have you 
> thought about getting reviews before you put it on the app store? You want to 
> avoid getting a bad reputation when you are just debugging and testing user 
> experience. 
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 11:57 AM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Jonathon:
>> A common solutionfor this is to have two buttons. One says: “I am a new 
>> first-time User” and the other one says: “I have an account. Log me in.” 
>> That would avoid the confusion.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think I am going to add a first-load script that explicitly asks the user 
>>> if they want to create a new login, and explain they can do this at any 
>>> time through the Universal Button. 
>>> 
>>> I think I am going to change the image for the Universal button as well. 
>>> although not sure exactly to what.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 1:17 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Bill
>>>> 
>>>> If you click the gear button, it will let you create a new user.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My daughter just made the same observation - I will find a way to make it 
>>>> obvious.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 12:36 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>>>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jonathon:
>>>>> Impressive app. You’re going to have fun keeping control of the trollers. 
>>>>> Anyway, I downloaded it and opened it on my iPad Pro, latest distro of 
>>>>> iOS. I got the main screen, then it sent me to the registration screen, 
>>>>> where I entered a userName and password. Below the “Password” field, the 
>>>>> “New Password” field and all those below it stayed greyed out. I could go 
>>>>> no further. If I pressed “Return” after my password entry, it tried to 
>>>>> register me but I got an “Invalid credentials dialog.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I quit the app, opened it again, and got the same behavior.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m looking forward to seeing this final app. Looks very ambitious, and 
>>>>> should be a winner. Look out, FaceBook!
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Bill P
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode 
>>>>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Version 1 of Augmented Earth is now live on the Apple App Store :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you get a chance, please check it out. This is just a soft launch, 
>>>>>> but I am excited to have it out there. I won't start heavy promotion 
>>>>>> until version 1.5.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I will be posting a map-only version on Livecode Share for explaining 
>>>>>> how to do 3D webgl Earth maps in LC, prior to my presentation at the 
>>>>>> September LC Global conference.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All constructive feedback is welcome, I have much to improve.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A big thanks to everyone here for all the helpful tips :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here is the link, for iPhone/iPad users:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/augmented-earth/id1252486908?ls=1&mt=8
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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