I certainly did not mean to imply by "only" that pointed to the market share of 
phones with 1 GB ram.

OT: I was just reading Quora about how US overwhelming Germany with sheer 
numbers of tanks and jets that had much lower specs than German made 
tanks/planes. But we won on our sheer industrial power to produce numbers.  

so that's happening in Asia… but it's intereseting to see in your graph  that 
in India 2GB phones are approaching 1 GB phones..and other indicators for my 
target markey which are middle class youth primarily.. would put them in the 
2-3GB phone market… but even this one is complaining about the app on Galaxy 
with 3 GB of RAM (Jacque he was not referring to his own phone but to others) 
FYI I mentioned this before… it's being driven by demonitization. every farmer 
and street seller needs a $20.00 smart phone just to seel his fish on the 
street. But that's not our audience.

and the article you linked to puts the "blame" (if you will), on the OS… 

"While 2GB of RAM is enough for iOS to work smoothly, Android devices need more 
memory."

Musings: 

So that make one wonder, how far should we expect LiveCode to optimize (and 
possibly compromise) it's stack, to work on Android?  Versus pushing for better 
displays transitions -- see Scott Rossi's incredioble "looking forward" on LC 
Global… the LC engine is really need to going to grow, change scale to stay in 
the game, easy rounded corners everywhere,, i.e. engine features that support 
our drive for more and better content. 

We don't built utilities here, we build "culture" so I have to ask myself if we 
want to move forward creating our little "disney world on a phone" or if we 
need to rachet back to "simple caddy shack to hold a few clubs and golf balls." 
Frankly the latter is just not an option, our brains/production don't track 
like that at all.

End Musings:  back to ground:

I would not even know where to start to understand what to what extent an app 
is overloading RAM on Android.  How do we measure this stuff. At least on a 
linux web server I have TOP and easy I/O tools to tell us exactly what is 
happening. We need this for LC, ideally without our having to reinvent a 
monitoriing system.

I suppose the new script profiler should help us? but I don't really know where 
to begin.   

At least, dealing with a lot internet connection is a "no brainer" but bigger 
questions leave us in the dark

Data Grid 2 versus a field, vs a group with sub-groups with many child object, 
built dynamically on the fly from a mySQL dbase. Does it make more sense to 
cache the data as an LC array vs MySql Query? and how do you measure what is 
going on… What is the most efficient way to fetch 150 k Plain text and style it 
on the fly, for display. (H1 heads,  lists, bold, space before and after… etc) 
in a field? 

I feeding everything to the support team on this round… so they are getting to 
see it all. 

Stay tuned… now back to building more content and studying out the script 
profiler….









 

On 12/29/17, 12:30 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Richard Gaskin via 
use-livecode" <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of 
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

    > To what extent we can realistically fit this app onto a phone with
    > only 1GB of RAM… I don't know.
    
    "Only"?  That's a lot of phones....
    
    
<https://mobiforge.com/news-comment/what-are-the-most-common-ram-specs-for-smartphones>

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