I should mention that CE Software has a product called QuicKeys that
runs on both Windows and Mac that seems to do exactly what you are
building. As I understand it, this is strong voodoo stuff requiring
much mojo. ;-) QuicKeys has had to really jump through hoops to make
their product work properly. There are timing issues and whatnot that
come into play.
Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Logos Management
Calvary Chapel CM
On Jan 19, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Randall Lee Reetz wrote:
On Jan 19, 2009, at 3:04 AM, Jan Schenkel wrote:
It would be a brilliant project, but not to be
undertaken without a thorough knowledge of C and file
systems on multiple platforms, with some assembly
required.
Thanks Jan,
This particular project is to do what Apple's "Automator" should have
done... namely, to allow automation triggered by system level events
- as they happen. I call my project "Reactor". You go to a
configuration panel where you select system events that you want to
trigger xtalk messages (and under what conditions). Then you go
create rev stacks that deal with these messages through event
handlers. It's that simple. The main Reactor tool will provide many
tools for automation that don't necessitate the creation of special
stacks and scripts.
Example:
Every time an image file is saved (by any program), store an alias of
that file in folder "Hard Drive:newImages:".
Every time the user navigates to a folder send "FolderNav" with the
folder path and long date and time to stack "myReactor".
Every time a text file is created with the word "Entropy" in its
name, move that file to folder "Hard Drive:My Projects:Entropic
Projects:".
Every time the user types the phrase "Calendar", launch application
"iCal"
If the day is "Monday" and the user is "Randall" then every time the
user types "work" then send "WordTyped" with "work"
Of course the idea is to deal with events in real time. This is
equivalent to the notion of putting things away as you use them... so
that at the end of the day or project, there isn't so much cleanup to
do. I hate how file systems and OS's are so static. How they never
do things... how they wait until the user asks.
I understand that automation as described above could lead to
recursion problems (exp: when new folder is created, create new
folder), but these can be filtered and preemptively prevented. I
also understand that OS's may be loath to the security problems
introduced by such a scheme... but the potential benefits
(productivity, efficiency, automation, data mining, etc.) might mean
we have to learn other ways of protecting the user and their data
than simple prevention.
I look forward to an OS that protects me the user from having to know
where my docs actually and physically reside. Think instead of
virtual pointers... many many ways to navigate and create and edit
association and semantic webs that point intelligently to my docs and
their parts.
Randall
On Jan 19, 2009, at 3:04 AM, Jan Schenkel wrote:
--- Randall Reetz <rand...@randallreetz.com> wrote:
On Jan 18, 2009, at 10:53 PM, Jiro Harada wrote:
What dose "OS level system wide file IO event"
mean concretely?
Example... user saves a file... at the moment it is
saved... I want
notification of this file IO event sent as a message
to a rev stack.
Other system level events I would like to subscribe
to:
1. file/folder/alias creation, open, edit, delete,
save as, etc.
2. application launch, sleep, quit, mimimize, etc.
3. computer launch, shut down, etc.
4. key board strokes (words, and combos.)
_______________________________________________
Add to this...
File and folder rename and move events. File system
and Browser navigation, and search terms used.
Again, i want OS events to trigger messages sent to
stacks or a master stack in real time... as they
happen.
Ideally, the user could set up preferences atom
subscribe to some events and ignore others.
randall
Hi Randall,
Java will not come to your aid for this one, I'm
afraid (*). The support for such events varies widely
accross platforms, and there's no real standard that
Java (or the Rev team) could adopt.
In fact, you may have to tap into the operating system
kernel to get this sort of information, and find away
to hook into its Find mechanism when we're talking
about browser navigation.
It would be a brilliant project, but not to be
undertaken without a thorough knowledge of C and file
systems on multiple platforms, with some assembly
required.
Jan Schenkel.
(*) Even in the upcoming Java 7 NIO revisions, there's
no mention of such events.
<http://today.java.net/pub/a/today/2008/07/03/jsr-203-new-file-
apis.html>
Note that the JNA (Java Native Access -
<https://jna.dev.java.net/>) project has an example
FileMonitor (Win32 only), but JNA is basically Java
syntax sugar-coating for the native OS API so you're
still researching and building code for each platform
separately.
Quartam Reports & PDF Library for Revolution
<http://www.quartam.com>
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time." (La Rochefoucauld)
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