Stephen Cox wrote:
"Be easy in an OOP language"
that begs the question:
Have you ever tried saying "Please can I have a glass of beer?" in
Bulgarian?
I find it easy, because I speak the language.
However, ask me to clear a field in an OOP language and I be quite
unable to do it. :)
Actually, Joe Lewis Wilkins' advice is very good indeed. Coupled with
the PDF file
that comes with RR, the in-built Documentation, and; speaking as somebody
who works down in the "babyish end" of Runtime Revolution programming:
ME. Ask away, and I will either give you an answer, or, at worst, say that I
don't know. Luckily this is a fantastic list where most contributors are not
going to look down their noses at you, but, more likely, bend over backwards
to help you.
" It's just different from anything else on the market."
Nonsense! :) Supercard (which only works on Mac and Windows) is also
descended from Hypercard and uses a programming language that has
evolved from Hypertalk.
Toolbook has also evolved from the same origins (although the relation is
now about as clear as that between an elephant and a hyrax).
What is, maybe, different, is the metaphor of a stack of cards, and the idea
that every object has its own script that appears in its own
instantiation of
the script editor - unlike, for instance, the long list of object codes in
Visual Basic. The language is, 99% of the time, a lot less obscure than
other
programming languages because its predecessor, Hypertalk, was initially
designed for non-programmers. Once you realise that, relax a bit (the
learning curve is not nearly as bad as scaling Mount Everest), and do a bit
of thinking about how the metaphor might work you should get up to
speed relatively quickly; especially if you can silence all the niggles and
doubts leaking in from your knowledge of other programming environments.
Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
Stephen,
The majority of us who use Rev have a background in HyperCard; going
way back. There are an abundance of inexpensive, used books on that
topic. Since much of the "basic" rev language is derived from HC,
reading such a book would be an easy method of cluing you in to Rev's
language. For HyperCard the language was called HyperTalk. I wouldn't
be surprised if there were a great deal of commentary regarding same
on the Web. You might want to Google it and see what you come up with.
Otherwise, I suppose this list is your best source for that kind of help.
Joe Wilkins
On May 8, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Stephen Cox wrote:
The biggest problem I am having is figuring out what to search for. The
language is so unique. So take my question about emptying a field. Be
easy
in an OOP language: empty(Text_field.text) - or something to that
effect.
So I would search on "empty" and get tons of info on the function and
various examples.. AND user comments.
Now in Revolution it's also easy but completely different then any of
language. So I search the Dictionary on "empty", got nothing; then "Text
Entry Field", got nothing; then asked here.
I'm not harping on Revolution. I like it. It's just different from
anything
else on the market. So a FAQ that shows JAVA or C syntax alongside
Revolution would be a god-send. Just some common functions and
procedures.
The manual is good, but has no reference to other languages. It would
help
get my head out of OOP into Revolution.
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