Nicolas, et al.,

A good dialog on the virtues of a tool and it's areas where it can improve is always appreciated, I believe.

People buying tRev are buying pre-release software, but it is software that people are using to get real work done. This happening on Mac and PCs.

Have there been problems with individual systems and set-ups? YES. Have I dealt with everyone of those myself? YES. No one is ignored, everyone gets an email from me, if they send me one.

I find people fascinating. For me, talking and emailing with others is one of my favorite parts of the day. If email doesn't get the problem solved, we use GoToMeeting and screen share.

Why have so many people bought tRev (pre-release software) without a trial or anything?

1. tRev works differently. People are ready for something different. Some are not. That's fine.

2. tRev works outside the IDE. This makes it very stable, once it's up and running. A handful of people have had install problems. Much of this was due to the set-up of folders where Rev resides. tRev has to know where Rev is in order to work. Much of this has been sorted.

3. tRev has several excellent features that really do change the way you script. Just ask the folks who have been using it. Auto-completion is very compelling. The built-in object browser really makes finding objects really easy. Parent scripts (behaviors) and datagrids are really built-in to the way it works.

4. People in our community understand that developing tools for a very small market is challenging financially, and they want to help. Plus, they want their toolset to evolve.

Here's a comment that I hear a lot: "Why isn't Revolution doing this? Why does this [Yank in Texas] have to do it?"

I can't control what Runtime Revolution does or doesn't do. I see a void and I try to fill it with a solution with little time and zero funding other than sales...make that pre-sales, actually.

Let's talk about Runtime Revolution the company. I have been to Edinburgh. Edinburgh has been here. I know these people and quite a bit about the day-to-day of their business life. I understand the software business and the developer tool business.

More than anything, I want to put the whole "why-isn't-Runrev-doing- this" thing in context. Here goes...

1. Revolution is a marvel. There is NOTHING like it anywhere on this planet. Truly. Cross-platform and soon-to-be cross-browser. There's even a server/storage solution. This is UNPRECEDENTED.

2. ALL major development environs lose money and are SUBSIDIZED by OS companies or hardware companies or universities. Kevin Miller's belief in himself and his product are what subsidizes Runtime Revolution. He puts himself on the line every day of every week to keep his shop running. The man is like steel-cut oatmeal. I don't know how he does it, frankly.

3. The Runrev development team barely have time to eat right now. They are making history with their product, and they've been kind enough to include us. I am truly grateful.

All that said, I still grouse about Revolution. But I know it's my own BS. In the video we did yesterday I jokingly point out how the Revolution IDE can be an excellent form of exercise with all it's clicking. But I am also quick to point out how hard the Runrev team is working and how I have not right to complain. I know it's bad form to joke at another's expense, but sometimes I just can't help myself.

So I am very entirely understanding when it comes to "why-isn't- Revoluton-doing-this" question. But my answer is: "thank God."

Best,

Jerry Daniels
Watch tRev - The Movie
http://reveditor.com/trev-the-movie

On Aug 8, 2009, at 7:15 AM, Nicolas Cueto wrote:

Defense shields coming up...

Let's be clear -- I was not flaming or bashing Jerry's work at all.
Why else, as Brian observed, would I return each time for more
punishment? Cause the whole concept of Jerry's work, as frustrating as
the software might be, is the way the Rev ide should ideally work.

Anyway, thank you for the rev-editor website ref, but I already knew
about it. Why am I posting here then? Well, it is not clear on the
rev-editor page how to post a comment. Tried the login area, but just
a spiel there about joining something called "Posterous" ("Sign up is
a snap, and lets you customize and edit your posterous.").

So, not wanting to hand out my email address to a "Posterous", and,
just as importantly, given that others here were already talking about
tRev (Sarah, I would've purchased tRev eventually, cause I do like
Jerry's work),  I took the tacit go-ahead and posted here.

Anyway.

--
Nicolas Cueto
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