Thomas,

Please turn your sensitivity knob down two notches and stop stirring up the pot. My comments were not meant to insult or be rude to anyone, and in rereading them, I can't see that they are, but you have labeled them so. You are actually inciting more discussion and rudeness than you are preventing. I am only trying to provide helpful suggestions for how to separate one generic type of discussion from another for the benefit of the people who come to this list to get the very helpful and appreciated advice of the "old hands". Dwelling on an individuals opinion and reading into it something that may or may not have been intended as disrespectful has promoted more controversy than it warrants. My delete key has been overly active on this thread already --I like to keep the most helpful messages for future reference in my mail folder after I have filtered out the irrelevant ones to improve future searches.

Extraneous BZ improvement suggestions that are not well thought out, or could be handled in some other reasonable way are a waste of RunRev's limited resources to sort through and make responses. Intelligent discussion in a list with interested users is a useful way of making the best suggestions.

As I said, I think it is reasonable for the high end "Professional" license purchasers to discuss improvements in their own exclusive thread, and having a thread for that, are less inclined to bring that thread into this thread. Just a statement of fact, but using less words, because of my slow typing skills.

So there are two choices, continue on in unproductive mud slinging and snide rude remarks and insults or let this dead horse lie and get back to the business at hand.

Don't feel you have to reply to opinion portion of this message, I am content to leave it at that.

Dennis

On Jun 30, 2005, at 8:36 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

The problem is that the discussions turned into insults and rude comments and they are still going on. The new traffic on the list is great and the help that this list offers is beyond any list I have ever seen. But when an intelligent discussion falls into rude comments being thrown at the "old timers", "old hands", "rich people" who are too busy "having their own pow wow" or "are used to it and expect others to get used to it" or what ever other snide comments people can come up with then it is no longer a productive discussion and is wasting an awful lot of list space which is normally used in helping people.

So there are two choices, continue on in unproductive mud slinging and snide rude remarks and insults or let this dead horse lie and get back to the business at hand.

Bugzilla does work ( if your bug is not voted on may others find different bugs more important to them) and Rev does pay attention to both this list and the improve list and BZ. The comments from Mark recently show just that. There are all kinds of bug fixes going on as we speak and Rev has committed to an increase in those bug fixes and bug fix releases.

Tom

On Jun 30, 2005, at 8:17 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:


We can always put requests into BZ, but I believe an intelligent discussion should proceed that action, and that only those who are interested should be subjected to the additional traffic. Perhaps it is time for an improve-list for the rest of us. The discussions will happen anyway --if not there, then here.




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