On Oct 9, 2006, at 10:32 PM, David Bovill wrote:

Yes - but it seems a bit fragile. Or that is it took a lot of tinkering to set it right, and then I tried it on an existing group which continas other objects as well as the graphic and image - and try as I can i can"t get the
same effect.

This will depend on the layers. And remember to set the ink of the group to something other than srcCopy.

Is there some documentation on this or can you explain why / what grouped
inks work?

If a group or card has a blend = 0 and an ink that is not srcCopy, then it has an alpha channel, and then acts as though adding parentheses in image math.

Here is a math oriented explanation:

Suppose "*" is the binary infix ink operator and it performs the kind of ink is that associated with the first parameter. Suppose it is written like this a*b where a is a src control (or image from a group) and b is a dst image. Suppose "card" and "stack" means the color/pattern of the card and stack, and "black" means a black image. A group or card may have opaque false and in that case a transparent trivial image is used in its place. Suppose "*" is right associative, that is a*b*c = a*(b*c). Suppose objects of layers 3 to 1 are a, b and c. Then the resulting image like this:

(a*b*c*card*stack)*black if the card does not have an alpha channel
     ((a*b*c*card)*stack)*black    if the card has an alpha channel

Now suppose controls a and b are grouped and the group has an alpha channel. The result would be this:

( (a*b*group)*c*card*stack ) * black if the card does not have an alpha channel (( (a*b*group)*c*card)*stack ) * black if the card does have an alpha channel

In this case, (a*b*group) is calculated separately to form an image that is processed with the rest.

The ink operator for the stack is fixed. If the card does not have an alpha channel, a control with a transparent section can burn a hole all the way to black. Otherwise, it burns a hole only to the stack background.

Now for something with less math. It is like gluing pictures and cards onto a collage. You work from back to front using the right kind of glue for each layer. The group means that you glue some things together, put them in a clear envelope and then using the right kind of glue for the group glue that to your collage.


Those of the first batch of the new inks are called "structural" in the property inspector and are the well-established Porter-Duff image composition operators. You can find info on these online. Revolution Porter-Duff inks are a variant (bug) similar to the variant (bug) used by Java2D which makes them less useful and can give surprising results. I have seen these called clipped Porter- Duff operators (bugs). This SVG article points out this variant (bug) and describes it:

    http://www.svgopen.org/2005/papers/abstractsvgopen/index.html#S10

This same article also is a good intro to the P-D operators.


The next lot of inks is similar to the blends available in Photoshop. Those are described lots of places.

I hope this helps.  I have trouble explaining things.

Dar





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