> Ok, I will stop talking to you now. Good luck in life. Or not. :| FreBer :
Strive to make it easier , not more difficult . It's already so ... so incredibly difficult , this world of 3D creation , & getting worse by the moment . My experience with the RS Wiki so far has been worse than trying 'POV by brail' . Of course _YOU_ can navigate easily , but what about the rest of the community ? Mark H. found my page when I could not . You have advise on how to find things that are now lost forever (unless one saves that particular mail) . The whole idea of the Wiki was to preserve vital information and it has failed so miserably at that one simple impetus that your last mail bearing bizzare directives only served to obscure even more . You volunteered your efforts (thanks) but ... open up your fucking mind just a tiny bit and ask "what is the potential of the RS Wiki ? " When an administrator responds with ridiculous instructions I have no choice but to say "shut down the Wiki" , at least until the community pushes for more vital info , more easily accesible info . If the community doesn't care ,well , I'll still say , shut it down instead of creating yet another stupid waste of pre- cious time . Garry > > > No, you are correct, I think that only admins like myself and Matthias > > > may remove a page completely - the page we are talking about is still > > > there. Go to "Special pages->All pages" to see _all_ pages that are on > > > the wiki. If an admin completely removes a page, however, it won't > > > even appear here and the contents of the page will be lost forever. > > > > > > As for extending the "Recent Changes", you can do that yourself by > > > clicking the links at the top of the page. There you can increase the > > > number of changes to show and how old the changes may be. If the > > > numbers presented in there aren't enough, you can modify the URL > > > directly: > > > > > > http://rs3dwiki.the-final.info/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&limit=500&days=300 > > > > > > This will give you the latest 500 changes that are less than 300 days > > > old. I suppose that you can exchange 500 and 300 with any number, > > > within reason. If you don't want to type this in every time, you can > > > bookmark the URL in your browser for easy access. > > > > > > If Matthias, as he is the only one with enough access, were to modify > > > the PHP code of the Mediawiki to add more links on that page, he would > > > make it more difficult to upgrade the wiki when that becomes > > > necessary. It is best to minimise the number of such modifications. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Fredrik Bergholtz > > > > > > P.S. > > > Note that, on the "All pages" page you can also easily see the > > > duplicate pages I was bitching about a long time ago. I think most of > > > the duplicates are sorted out, but some may still remain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry , I thought only yourself had the means to comp- > > > > letely remove a Wiki page . My sincerest apologies . > > > > > > > > You also make good points about the pro's & con's of > > > > simply copying info into the Wiki from a site that is > > > > in a constant state of being upgraded , without foll- > > > > owing the S/W's Doc upgrade timetable . > > > > > > > > Well , could we not extend the timeframe of the 'Recent > > > > Changes' tool ? Not fair in my opinion to have an author > > > > wondering who and what and why , without at least some > > > > small info about the date thier efforts were wiped out . > > > > > > > > Of course in theory , anyone can log in and delete the > > > > whole site at will , but still , it would be nice to see > > > > a few more details concerning particular page histories , > > > > I think . > > > > > > > > Best . > > > > > > > > Garry > > > > www.parkwild.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who are these "non-contributing administrators" you speak of? The page > > > > > wasn't removed by any administrator, contributing or otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > The wiki has mainly contained information about RS3D, not easily found > > > > > in the official manual. The wiki was never intended to be a > > > > > carbon-copy of the manual since that only raises unnecessary problems > > > > > of maintaining consistency. Besides, what would be the point of having > > > > > redundant information on the wiki? > > > > > > > > > > Now, to relate to the greeblez! page, the initial page was, in fact, > > > > > the user-manual for Real Greeblez!. This was ok since, at that time, > > > > > the script was shipped with no manual and there was no natural "home" > > > > > for such a manual. This has changed, Real Greeblez! has a web site of > > > > > it's own, this site is linked to from the image contest site and > > > > > wikipedia. The Real Greeblez! script now ships with a manual and a > > > > > tutorial that shows how to use the script. There is no need for > > > > > copying the manual to the wiki, in fact, due to consistency problems, > > > > > its presence on the wiki could, theoretically cause more damage than > > > > > assistance. This means that the wiki can go back to be about things > > > > > _not_ explicitly listed in the official manuals. > > > > > > > > > > If you want to make a tutorial about performing a specific task, that > > > > > maybe nobody even thought about using Real Greeblez! for, feel free to > > > > > make a new page for that. But I do not think that an outdated copy of > > > > > the manual is helpful at all. > > > > > > > > > > As a final note, if you had taken the time to look at the page history > > > > > you would have noticed that it was Zaug himself who removed the link > > > > > to the page. And even though anyone can add and remove things from a > > > > > wiki, I think that the author of the product has a little bit more > > > > > than others to say about pages concerning his/her product. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Fredrik Bergholtz > > > > > > > > > > On 07/09/06, studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Oh my, Oww! That is a quite dated version; apparently composed > > > > > > > prior to > > > > > > > the complete rewrite/redesign and several additional small > > > > > > > changes. It > > > > > > > really should be removed if it is not to be updated. In my > > > > > > > opinion that > > > > > > > would be rather redundant as Real GreebleZ! has had proper, up to > > > > > > > date, > > > > > > > documentation since May; available at the source. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://rs3dwiki.the-final.info/index.php?title=Real_GreebleZ%21 > > > > > > > > > > > > I looked for my page (above) on the wiki some time ago with the > > > > > > intention of updating it . Couldn't find it , so I gave up . > > > > > > > > > > > > If the page is that offensive , it could have easily been up- > > > > > > dated by deleting the nasty redundant content and add a link > > > > > > to http://www.catmtn.com/realgreeblez "for-up-to-date-Doc's" . > > > > > > > > > > > > That's the whole idea behind the wiki impetus . Edit , add , > > > > > > delete page content , modify ... perfect ! (verb) . It was not > > > > > > designed to give non-contributing administrators an opportunity > > > > > > to decide what should be and what should not . > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh well , such is life , n'est pas ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zaug > > > > > > > > > > > > Garry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/401 - Release Date: > > > > > 7/26/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/401 - Release Date: 7/26/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/401 - Release Date: 7/26/2006 > >
