Hi Matthias,
thanks for the reply by the way. But it is still posible with Blender
to Realsoft. It appears this whole idea of export for low poly but Hi
rez looking meshes is a hot topic at the Blender forums. Two phrases
keep popping up - Tangent Space and Normal Maps - I am confused - so
if anyone wishes to attempt a dummies guide for the rest of us - bring it on.
WHY? well, to get a sculpted mesh out of the likes of Blender which
is free OR silo which is as cheap as chips into REALSOFT. As we know
RS has a hard time with heavy poly count meshes at the moment.
Matthias, with your understanding of this, any chance of a workflow
from Blender to RS using the following FREE app -
http://www.xnormal.net/
OR if one is in Linux land -
http://rptd.dnsalias.net/epsylon/denormgen.php [ not sure how good this is ]
Here is a thread at the Blender Forums about Tangent Normal Maps -
http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=89019&highlight=xnormal
Then one on Normal Maps -
http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=96396&highlight=xnormal
Read this too -
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=91&t=502675 Talks of
Tangent Space and Normal Maps and Blender Sculpts to other apps. All using OBJ.
Anyway - would appreciate some of you Gurus to knock heads on this.
Particularly from Blender to RS, as Blender IS free. The description
at the linux app site above is nice -
"The DENormGen is a tool designed to help you create Geometry Normal
Maps. Such maps are used in high-end Games to fool the Player into
believing that a Low Resolution Mesh does have much more detail than
it actually does. Those kind of Normal Maps are best generated using
a High Resolution Mesh from which the Normal Informations is
extracted and projected onto the Low Resolution Mesh. This tool
provides exactly this functionality."
Cheers
Aidan
At 20:37 30/05/2007, you wrote:
Hi Aidan,
if I'm right the comparision is not right at all points.
In ZBrush I can work with/on my original RS-model,
the only thing I get from ZBrush is a displacement-map (or
color-maps..., too),
which I can then use for bump-mapping and/or rendertime
displacement. In Blender I get a highly subdivided mesh,
which replaces my lowres mesh in RS.
(see attached image, lowres alien with rich detailed displacement)
If I'm right at this point, the difference is really important while
an object is animated and you need a change after all animation is done.
And it's easier to animate a lowres model, than a highres model ;-)
See a possible use for displacement-maps here:
http://projectmessiah.com/x4/vids/gallery/taron_people.avi
Do not misunderstand me, I like blender and I use it from time to time
(the makehuman script is really great and impressive), but for me
it's much easier to work with ZBrush, because it's easy to integrate
in a from modeling to animation pipeline.
Ok, it's not freeware ;-)
Matthias
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aidan O Driscoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <user-list@light.realsoft3d.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: Zbrush3+Realsoft3D .... and an alternative!
> Hi lads,
>
> As I have preached in the past - I am a great fan of inter
> operability. No I am not going to rant on about this here. What I
> will say is that ZBRUSH - as nice an app as it is - it costs. But did
> ye all know about the recent releases of Blender [ v2.43 and 2.44 ]?
> These are landmark updates. Blender now includes a Zbrush type Sculpt
> tool that I imagine will do what Matthias has done here. In the
> recent past I exported a Sculpted mesh via obj from Blender to RS.
> Here's the bumph on the Blender Sculpt tools:
>
> http://www.blender.org/development/release-logs/blender-243/sculpt-mode/
>
> As an aside Blender has recently added Sub Surface Scattering tools
> also [ SSS ]:
>
>
http://www.blender.org/development/release-logs/blender-244/subsurface-scattering/
>
> Last night I was messing with both Sculpt and SSS in Blender, here is
> a quick render:
>
> http://www.tidalsound.com/3dstuff/sss4.jpg - a rough sculpted
> candle with SSS.
>
> My full understanding of the SSS tool is not their yet, this just a test.
>
> My main point - Blender is FREE and just as is with ZBRUSH can be
> used back and forth to/from RS. Its a cheap as in Free alternative
> which is ideal as a tool to use ALONG SIDE Realsoft 3D - an example -
> model etc in RS, export as obj and sculpt in Blender, export back.
> One caveat - Blender does not support Ngons yet, but nor did
> Lightwave up until recently. I find the creating models with 4
> vertices habit seems to make for more structured, cleaner meshes.
My two cents
>
> Cheers
> Aidan
>
>
>
>
> At 12:28 30/05/2007, you wrote:
> >Some tryout:
> >
> >http://www.the-final.com/alien_z_brush.jpg
> >
> >Matthias
> >
> >
> >
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