Thanks Bryan !!

Connection is in ESTBLISHED state on on end and completely missing at other end 
(in another dc).


Yes, we can revisit TCP tuning.But the problem is node specific. So not sure 
whether tuning is the culprit.

Thanks

Anuj

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From:"Bryan Cheng" <br...@blockcypher.com>
Date:Wed, 18 Nov, 2015 at 2:04 am
Subject:Re: Repair Hangs while requesting Merkle Trees

Ah OK, might have misunderstood you. Streaming socket should not be in play 
during merkle tree generation (validation compaction). They may come in play 
during merkle tree exchange- that I'm not sure about. You can read a bit more 
here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-8611.


Regardless, you should have it set- 1 hr is usually a good conservative 
estimate, but you can go much lower safely.


What state is the connection on that only shows on one side? Is it ESTABLISHED, 
or something like CLOSE_WAIT?


Here's a good place to start for tuning, though it doesn't have as much about 
network tuning: 
https://tobert.github.io/pages/als-cassandra-21-tuning-guide.html. More 
generally, TCP tuning usually revolves around a balance between latency and 
bandwidth. Over long connections (we're talking 10s of ms, instead of the sub 
1ms you usually see in a good dc network), your expectations will shift 
greatly. Stuff like NODELAY on tcp is very nice for cutting your latencies when 
you're inside a DC, but will generate lots of small packets that will hurt your 
bandwidth over longer connections due to the need to wait for acks. 
otc_coalescing_strategy is on a similar vein, bundling together nearby messages 
to trade latency for throughput. You'll also probably want to tune your tcp 
buffers and window sizes, since that determines how much data can be in-flight 
between acknowledgements, and the default size is pitiful for any decent  
network size. Google around for TCP
 tuning/buffer tuning and you should find some good resources.


On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Anuj Wadehra <anujw_2...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Hi Bryan,


Thanks for the reply !!

I didnt mean streaming_socket_tomeout_in_ms. I meant when you run netstats 
(Linux cmnd) on  node A in DC1, you will notice that there is connection in 
established state with node B in DC2. But when you run netstats on node B, you 
wont find any connection with node A. Such connections are there across dc? Is 
it a problem.


We havent set streaming_socket_timeout_in_ms which I know must be set. But I am 
not  sure wtheher setting this property has any impact on merkle tree requests. 
I thought its valid for data streaming if some mismatch is found and data needs 
to be streamed.Please confirm. Whats the value you use for streaming socket 
timeout?


Morever, if socket timeout is the issue, that should happen on other nodes 
too...repair is not running on just one node, as merkle tree request is getting 
lost n not transmitted to one or more nodes in remote dc.


I am not sure about exact distance. But they are connected with a very high 
speed 10gbps link.


When you say different TCP stack tuning..do u have any document/blog/link 
describing recommendations for multi Dc Cassandra setup?  Can you elaborate 
what all settings need to be different? 



Thanks

Anuj









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From:"Bryan Cheng" <br...@blockcypher.com>
Date:Tue, 17 Nov, 2015 at 5:54 am


Subject:Re: Repair Hangs while requesting Merkle Trees

Hi Anuj,


Did you mean streaming_socket_timeout_in_ms? If not, then you definitely want 
that set. Even the best network connections will break occasionally, and in 
Cassandra < 2.1.10 (I believe) this would leave those connections hanging 
indefinitely on one end.


How far away are your two DC's from a network perspective, out of curiosity? 
You'll almost certainly be doing different TCP stack tuning for cross-DC, 
notably your buffer sizes, window params, cassandra-specific stuff like 
otc_coalescing_strategy, inter_dc_tcp_nodelay, etc.


On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Anuj Wadehra <anujw_2...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

One more observation.We observed that there are few TCP connections which node 
shows as Established but when we go to node at other end,connection is not 
there. They are called "phantom" connections I guess. Can this be a possible 
cause?


Thanks

Anuj


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From:"Anuj Wadehra" <anujw_2...@yahoo.co.in>
Date:Sat, 14 Nov, 2015 at 11:59 pm


Subject:Re: Repair Hangs while requesting Merkle Trees

Thanks Daemeon !!


I wil capture the output of netstats and share in next few days. We were 
thinking of taking tcp dumps also. If its a network issue and increasing 
request timeout worked, not sure how Cassandra is dropping messages based on 
timeout.Repair messages are non droppable and not supposed to be timedout.


2 of the 3 nodes in the DC are able to complete repair without any issue. Just 
one node is problematic.


I also observed frequent messages in logs of other nodes which say that hints 
replay timedout..and the node where hints were being replayed is always a 
remote dc node. Is it related some how?


Thanks

Anuj

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From:"daemeon reiydelle" <daeme...@gmail.com>
Date:Thu, 12 Nov, 2015 at 10:34 am
Subject:Re: Repair Hangs while requesting Merkle Trees



Have you checked the network statistics on that machine? (netstats -tas) while 
attempting to repair ... if netstats show ANY issues you have a problem. If you 
can put the command in a loop running every 60 seconds for maybe 15 minutes and 
post back?

Out of curiousity, how many remote DC nodes are getting successfully repaired?



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On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Anuj Wadehra <anujw_2...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Hi,


we are using 2.0.14. We have 2 DCs at remote locations with 10GBps 
connectivity.We are able to complete repair (-par -pr) on 5 nodes. On only one 
node in DC2, we are unable to complete repair as it always hangs. Node sends 
Merkle Tree requests, but one or more nodes in DC1 (remote) never show that 
they sent the merkle tree reply to requesting node.
Repair hangs infinitely. 

After increasing request_timeout_in_ms on affected node, we were able to 
successfully run repair on one of the two occassions.

Any comments, why this is happening on just one node? In 
OutboundTcpConnection.java,  when isTimeOut method always returns false for 
non-droppable verb such as Merkle Tree Request(verb=REPAIR_MESSAGE),why 
increasing request timeout solved problem on one occasion ?



Thanks

Anuj Wadehra 




On Thursday, 12 November 2015 2:35 AM, Anuj Wadehra <anujw_2...@yahoo.co.in> 
wrote:



Hi,


We have 2 DCs at remote locations with 10GBps connectivity.We are able to 
complete repair (-par -pr) on 5 nodes. On only one node in DC2, we are unable 
to complete repair as it always hangs. Node sends Merkle Tree requests, but one 
or more nodes in DC1 (remote) never show that they sent the merkle tree reply 
to requesting node.
Repair hangs infinitely. 

After increasing request_timeout_in_ms on affected node, we were able to 
successfully run repair on one of the two occassions.

Any comments, why this is happening on just one node? In 
OutboundTcpConnection.java,  when isTimeOut method always returns false for 
non-droppable verb such as Merkle Tree Request(verb=REPAIR_MESSAGE),why 
increasing request timeout solved problem on one occasion ?



Thanks

Anuj Wadehra






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