Yes, but getting at why you think EBS is going down is the real point. New GM 
in 2011. Very different product. 35:40 in the video


-- 
Jeff Jirsa


> On Jan 31, 2016, at 9:57 PM, Eric Plowe <eric.pl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> If EBS goes down, then EBS Gp2 will go down as well, no? I'm not discounting 
> EBS, but prior outages are worrisome.
> 
>> On Sunday, January 31, 2016, Jeff Jirsa <jeff.ji...@crowdstrike.com> wrote:
>> Free to choose what you'd like, but EBS outages were also addressed in that 
>> video (second half, discussion by Dennis Opacki). 2016 EBS isn't the same as 
>> 2011 EBS. 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jeff Jirsa
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 31, 2016, at 8:27 PM, Eric Plowe <eric.pl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you all for the suggestions. I'm torn between GP2 vs Ephemeral. GP2 
>>> after testing is a viable contender for our workload. The only worry I have 
>>> is EBS outages, which have happened. 
>>> 
>>>> On Sunday, January 31, 2016, Jeff Jirsa <jeff.ji...@crowdstrike.com> wrote:
>>>> Also in that video - it's long but worth watching
>>>> 
>>>> We tested up to 1M reads/second as well, blowing out page cache to ensure 
>>>> we weren't "just" reading from memory
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Jeff Jirsa
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 31, 2016, at 9:52 AM, Jack Krupansky <jack.krupan...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> How about reads? Any differences between read-intensive and 
>>>>> write-intensive workloads?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- Jack Krupansky
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 3:13 AM, Jeff Jirsa <jeff.ji...@crowdstrike.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We run using 4T GP2 volumes, which guarantee 10k iops. Even at 1M writes 
>>>>>> per second on 60 nodes, we didn’t come close to hitting even 50% 
>>>>>> utilization (10k is more than enough for most workloads). PIOPS is not 
>>>>>> necessary. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: John Wong
>>>>>> Reply-To: "user@cassandra.apache.org"
>>>>>> Date: Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 3:07 PM
>>>>>> To: "user@cassandra.apache.org"
>>>>>> Subject: Re: EC2 storage options for C*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For production I'd stick with ephemeral disks (aka instance storage) if 
>>>>>> you have running a lot of transaction.
>>>>>> However, for regular small testing/qa cluster, or something you know you 
>>>>>> want to reload often, EBS is definitely good enough and we haven't had 
>>>>>> issues 99%. The 1% is kind of anomaly where we have flush blocked.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But Jeff, kudo that you are able to use EBS. I didn't go through the 
>>>>>> video, do you actually use PIOPS or just standard GP2 in your production 
>>>>>> cluster?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Bryan Cheng <br...@blockcypher.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Yep, that motivated my question "Do you have any idea what kind of disk 
>>>>>>> performance you need?". If you need the performance, its hard to beat 
>>>>>>> ephemeral SSD in RAID 0 on EC2, and its a solid, battle tested 
>>>>>>> configuration. If you don't, though, EBS GP2 will save a _lot_ of 
>>>>>>> headache.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Personally, on small clusters like ours (12 nodes), we've found our 
>>>>>>> choice of instance dictated much more by the balance of price, CPU, and 
>>>>>>> memory. We're using GP2 SSD and we find that for our patterns the disk 
>>>>>>> is rarely the bottleneck. YMMV, of course.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 7:32 PM, Jeff Jirsa 
>>>>>>>> <jeff.ji...@crowdstrike.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> If you have to ask that question, I strongly recommend m4 or c4 
>>>>>>>> instances with GP2 EBS.  When you don’t care about replacing a node 
>>>>>>>> because of an instance failure, go with i2+ephemerals. Until then, GP2 
>>>>>>>> EBS is capable of amazing things, and greatly simplifies life.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We gave a talk on this topic at both Cassandra Summit and AWS 
>>>>>>>> re:Invent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R-mgOcOSd4 It’s very much 
>>>>>>>> a viable option, despite any old documents online that say otherwise.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: Eric Plowe
>>>>>>>> Reply-To: "user@cassandra.apache.org"
>>>>>>>> Date: Friday, January 29, 2016 at 4:33 PM
>>>>>>>> To: "user@cassandra.apache.org"
>>>>>>>> Subject: EC2 storage options for C*
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My company is planning on rolling out a C* cluster in EC2. We are 
>>>>>>>> thinking about going with ephemeral SSDs. The question is this: Should 
>>>>>>>> we put two in RAID 0 or just go with one? We currently run a cluster 
>>>>>>>> in our data center with 2 250gig Samsung 850 EVO's in RAID 0 and we 
>>>>>>>> are happy with the performance we are seeing thus far.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Eric

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