Hi Ben,

We're using the akka persistence layer which doesn't give me much scope for 
remodelling data.

So, on the assumption that the guys who wrote the persistence layer knew what 
they were doing, I followed your suggestion to increase RAM (still only to a 
miserly 8gig, which the startup script has decided means the JVM should be 
started with -Xms1968M, -Xmx1968M, -Xmn200M) and now the new nodes are coming 
up.

Thanks for your help,
Tobin

> On 12 Jun 2016, at 06:52, Ben Slater <ben.sla...@instaclustr.com> wrote:
> 
> I should add - there is probably an option (c) of fiddling with a bunch of 
> tuning parameters to try to nurse things through with your current config but 
> I’m not sure that’s useful unless you really need to make the current set up 
> work for some reason.
> 
> On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 at 15:23 Ben Slater <ben.sla...@instaclustr.com> wrote:
> Hi Tobin,
> 
> 4G RAM is a pretty small machine to be using to run Cassandra. As I 
> mentioned, 8G of heap is the normal recommendation for a production machine 
> which means you need at least 14-16G total (and can get performance benefit 
> from more).
> 
> I agree disk space doesn’t look to really be an issue here and I’m not sure 
> what impact degraded mode has but it doesn’t really sound good :-) (I think 
> it’s caused by Is swap disabled? : false - ie you have swap enabled which is 
> not recommended). 
> 
> In this case, I would expect that the relatively large partition(s) (175MB in 
> the warning) in conjunction with the low heap allocation is what is causing 
> C* to run out of heap. Heap exhaustion often manifests when C* has to compact 
> a large partition. When you add a new node the data that gets streamed across 
> has to be compacted which is why you’ll see it on the new node but node the 
> existing nodes (yet).
> 
> So, I’d say your options are either (a) get more memory and increase heap 
> space or (b) remodel your data with a partition key that does not create such 
> large partitions (generally, smaller is better if it meets your functional 
> needs and stay under 10MB to avoid having to tune specifically to meet the 
> needs of large partitions). And, there is a fair chance you need to do (b) 
> for a healthy cluster in the long run.
> 
> Cheers
> Ben
> 
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 at 20:52 Tobin Landricombe <to...@sensatus.com> wrote:
> Hi Ben,
> 
> I think the degraded mode is caused by one or both of these...
>         • WARN  [main] 2016-06-10 14:23:01,690 StartupChecks.java:118 - 
> jemalloc shared library could not be preloaded to speed up memory allocations
>         • WARN  [main] 2016-06-10 14:23:01,691 StartupChecks.java:150 - JMX 
> is not enabled to receive remote connections. Please see cassandra-env.sh for 
> more info.
> ...neither of which should cause the heap issue.
> 
> The disk space isn't low for our (test) usage and again shouldn't cause the 
> heap issue.
> 
> Which leaves the large partition. I couldn't find what is considered a large 
> partition. Is it possible that syncing the large partition is causing 
> problems? Why would it only affect the new node, not the running ones?
> 
> I looked at increasing the heap space but after reviewing the docs, the 
> current settings look correct for the machines.
> 
> All the nodes are running on VMs with 2 cores and 4gig RAM. Neither they nor 
> the hypervisor are showing much load.
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> Tobin
> 
> > On 10 Jun 2016, at 22:18, Ben Slater <ben.sla...@instaclustr.com> wrote:
> >
> > The short-term fix is probably to try increasing heap space (in 
> > cassandra-env.sh). 8GB in the most standard but more may help in some 
> > circumstances.
> >
> > That said, your logs are pointing to a number of other issues which won’t 
> > be helping and probably need to be fixed for long-term stability:
> > - swap enabled ( Cassandra server running in degraded mode. Is swap 
> > disabled? : false,  Address space adequate? : true,  nofile limit adequate? 
> > : true, nproc limit adequate? : true)
> > - low disk space ( Only 36948 MB free across all data volumes. Consider 
> > adding more capacity to your cluster or removing obsolete snapshots)
> > - large partitions ( Writing large partition feed/messages:MANAGER:0 
> > (175811867 bytes))
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ben
> >
> > On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 at 01:11 Tobin Landricombe <to...@sensatus.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been googling various parts of this all day but none of the 
> > suggestions seem to fit.
> >
> > I have 2 nodes, one of which is a seed. I'm trying to add a third node but, 
> > after a few minutes in the UJ state, the node dies with the above error 
> > (http://pastebin.com/iRvYfuAu).
> >
> > Here are the warnings from the logs: http://pastebin.com/vYLvsHrv
> >
> > I've googled them but nothing seems appropriate.
> >
> > Debug log part 1: http://pastebin.com/b8ZSYtqV
> > Debug log part 2: http://pastebin.com/1Bbb7Vf8
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions,
> > Tobin
> >
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