Have you thought of using "-Dcassandra.replace_address_first_boot=..." (or "-Dcassandra.replace_address=..." if you are using an older version)? This will not result in a topology change, which means "nodetool cleanup" is not needed after the operation is completed.

On 05/05/2023 05:24, Jaydeep Chovatia wrote:
Thanks, Jeff!
But in our environment we replace nodes quite often for various optimization purposes, etc. say, almost 1 node per day (node /addition/ followed by node /decommission/, which of course changes the topology), and we have a cluster of size 100 nodes with 300GB per node. If we have to run cleanup on 100 nodes after every replacement, then it could take forever. What is the recommendation until we get this fixed in Cassandra itself as part of compaction (w/o externally triggering /cleanup/)?

Jaydeep

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 8:14 PM Jeff Jirsa <jji...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Cleanup is fast and cheap and basically a no-op if you haven’t
    changed the ring

    After cassandra has transactional cluster metadata to make ring
    changes strongly consistent, cassandra should do this in every
    compaction. But until then it’s left for operators to run when
    they’re sure the state of the ring is correct .



    On May 4, 2023, at 7:41 PM, Jaydeep Chovatia
    <chovatia.jayd...@gmail.com> wrote:

    
    Isn't this considered a kind of *bug* in Cassandra because as we
    know /cleanup/ is a lengthy and unreliable operation, so relying
    on the /cleanup/ means higher chances of data resurrection?
    Do you think we should discard the unowned token-ranges as part
    of the regular compaction itself? What are the pitfalls of doing
    this as part of compaction itself?

    Jaydeep

    On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 7:25 PM guo Maxwell <cclive1...@gmail.com>
    wrote:

        compact ion will just merge duplicate data and remove delete
        data in this node .if you add or remove one node for the
        cluster, I think clean up is needed. if clean up failed, I
        think we should come to see the reason.

        Runtian Liu <curly...@gmail.com> 于2023年5月5日周五 06:37写道:

            Hi all,

            Is cleanup the sole method to remove data that does not
            belong to a specific node? In a cluster, where nodes are
            added or decommissioned from time to time, failure to run
            cleanup may lead to data resurrection issues, as deleted
            data may remain on the node that lost ownership of
            certain partitions. Or is it true that normal compactions
            can also handle data removal for nodes that no longer
            have ownership of certain data?

            Thanks,
            Runtian



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