Walter,

Have you tried using procmon to watch the executable(s)?  It will record
registry access, though I'm not sure if it will record that the app was
attempting to access a key that does not exist, but it's definitely worth a
shot!

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645

-Chad

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Dennis Redfield <
dennis.lee.redfi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You really are at the mercy of the folks who wrote the installer, perhaps
> they will chime in.  The Registry system is quite complex and is a
> combination of keys required by the system: security, uninstall, service
> installation and keys which are set uniquely by the application (I assume
> this is what you intended when you said APP REG KEYS).  So your best bet is
> to go back to the couchdb installation source, talk to the installation
> authors and hit the books.
>
> BTW: The reason I asked your intent (i.e. your goal) was what you are
> attempting to do is going to require some real effort - if do-able at all
> and I was hoping that if I knew what you were trying to accomplish there
> might be another way to achieve the goal.
>
> Question:  I understand (from the Wiki) that mySQL does NOT run as a
> windows
> service but as a process within the hosting application (e.g. as a linked
> lib).  Is this not correct?
>
> thanks
>
> dlr
>
>
> On Thursday, August 4, 2011, Walter Torres <otrwal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ok, ok. I guess I should be very specific....
> >
> > When I refer to REG KEYS, I do not include KEYS that windows creates
> > when a SERVICE is installed. To my referring to APP REG KEYS, not
> > windows SERVICE REG KEYS
> >
> > Am I splitting hairs? I don't think so. SERVICE REG KEYS are not used
> > by the app.
> >
> > When I installed "erlsrv.exe" as a SERVICE, windows created the
> > SERVICE REG KEYS. It appears in the  SERVICES control and it allows me
> > to attempt to start it.
> >
> > I believe that the error I am getting is because the app is trying to
> > access an APP KEY of some kind.
> >
> > As for reading the installer code; well I did that for about an hour
> > and nothing jumped out at me. But than, I'm not that  experiences with
> > windows installer.
> >
> > That's why I asked in here. I was hoping someone who had experience
> > with the windows would know about keys and might know a work around.
> >
> > I was really hoping that this group would be a bit different than
> > other open source groups. I don't know why I would have that
> > expectation. I ran into the same "resistance", the same "bewilderment"
> > at the idea of not using an installer when I started working on apache
> > and on nearly every Linux based app that has a windows binary.
> >
> > Maybe these replies are thinking they are helping, but read the
> > replies again. Do they really help with the scenario given? Not from
> > my POV. They read to me as just questioning my logic not addressing
> > the issue.
> >
> > Does anyone gave any experience with windows? With how the app uses KEYS,
> etc.
> >
> > I don't have the experience to correct any code and recompile a
> > binary. And I think that is what will have to happen. I don't believe
> > there is any reason, none, for the need of a REG KEY, and I'm not
> > talking about any SERVICE REG KEYS.
> >
> > Anyone have any ideas or anyone with the bandwidth to look into this?
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------
> > Walter
> >
> > On Aug 4, 2011, at 9:28 AM, Keith Gable <zi...@ignition-project.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Aug 4, 2011 9:22 AM, "Walter Torres" <wal...@torres.ws> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have Apache and mySQL running, as a SERVICE, without REG KEYS.
> >>
> >> Impossible. You still have to have the service keys in the registry that
> >> tell Windows how to start/stop services. Maybe CouchDB is attempting to
> >> install this for you or expects to read settings from those keys. I'd
> check
> >> the source for the installer code and go from there.
> >
>
> --
> Trust No One
>

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