Thank you, Kelly!

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 4:06 PM Kelly Smith <kell...@zillowgroup.com> wrote:

> Hi Piper,
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> The repro is pretty simple:
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>    - Submit a job with parallelism set higher than YARN has resources to
>    support
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> What this ends up looking like in the Flink UI is this:
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> The Job is in a “RUNNING” state, but all of the tasks are in the
> “SCHEDULED” state. The `jobmanager.numRunningJobs` metric that Flink emits
> by default will increase by 1, but none of the tasks actually get scheduled
> on any TM.
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> What I’m looking for is a way to detect when I am in this state using
> Flink metrics (ideally the count of tasks in each state for better
> observability).
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> Does that make sense?
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> Thanks,
>
> Kelly
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> *From: *Piper Piper <piperfl...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 12:59 PM
> *To: *Kelly Smith <kell...@zillowgroup.com>
> *Cc: *"user@flink.apache.org" <user@flink.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Metrics for Task States
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> Hello Kelly,
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> I thought that Flink scheduler only starts a job if all requested
> containers/TMs are available and allotted to that job.
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> How can I reproduce your issue on Flink with YARN?
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> Thank you,
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> Piper
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> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 1:48 PM Kelly Smith <kell...@zillowgroup.com> wrote:
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> I’ve been running Flink in production on EMR (YARN) for some time and have
> found the metrics system to be quite useful, but there is one specific case
> where I’m missing a signal for this scenario:
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>    - When a job has been submitted, but YARN does not have enough
>    resources to provide
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> Observed:
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>    - Job is in RUNNING state
>    - All of the tasks for the job are in the (I believe) DEPLOYING state
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> Is there a way to access these as metrics for monitoring the number of
> tasks in each state for a given job (image below)? The metric I’m currently
> using is the number of running jobs, but it misses this “unhealthy”
> scenario. I realize that I could use application-level metrics (record
> counts, etc) as a proxy for this, but I’m working on providing a streaming
> platform and need all of my monitoring to be application agnostic.
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> [image: cid:image001.png@01D5A059.19DB3EB0]
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> I can’t find anything on it in the documentation.
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> Thanks,
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> Kelly
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>

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