Hi Jeff
1. " after around 50GB of state, I stop being able to reliably take checkpoints or savepoints. " What is the exact reason that job cannot complete checkpoint? Expired before completing or decline by some tasks? The former one is manly caused by high back-pressure and the later one is mainly due to some internal error. 2. Have you checked what reason the remote task manager is lost? If the remote task manager is not crashed, it might be due to GC impact, I think you might need to check task-manager logs and GC logs. Best Yun Tang ________________________________ From: Jeff Henrikson <jehenri...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:46 To: user <user@flink.apache.org> Subject: Trouble with large state Hello Flink users, I have an application of around 10 enrichment joins. All events are read from kafka and have event timestamps. The joins are built using .cogroup, with a global window, triggering on every 1 event, plus a custom evictor that drops records once a newer record for the same ID has been processed. Deletes are represented by empty events with timestamp and ID (tombstones). That way, we can drop records when business logic dictates, as opposed to when a maximum retention has been attained. The application runs RocksDBStateBackend, on Kubernetes on AWS with local SSDs. Unit tests show that the joins produce expected results. On an 8 node cluster, watermark output progress seems to indicate I should be able to bootstrap my state of around 500GB in around 1 day. I am able to save and restore savepoints for the first half an hour of run time. My current trouble is that after around 50GB of state, I stop being able to reliably take checkpoints or savepoints. Some time after that, I start getting a variety of failures where the first suspicious log event is a generic cluster connectivity error, such as: 1) java.io.IOException: Connecting the channel failed: Connecting to remote task manager + '/10.67.7.101:38955' has failed. This might indicate that the remote task manager has been lost. 2) org.apache.flink.runtime.io.network.netty.exception .RemoteTransportException: Connection unexpectedly closed by remote task manager 'null'. This might indicate that the remote task manager was lost. 3) Association with remote system [akka.tcp://flink@10.67.6.66:34987] has failed, address is now gated for [50] ms. Reason: [Association failed with [akka.tcp://flink@10.67.6.66:34987]] Caused by: [java.net.NoRouteToHostException: No route to host] I don't see any obvious out of memory errors on the TaskManager UI. Adding nodes to the cluster does not seem to increase the maximum savable state size. I could enable HA, but for the time being I have been leaving it out to avoid the possibility of masking deterministic faults. Below are my configurations. Thanks in advance for any advice. Regards, Jeff Henrikson Flink version: 1.10 Configuration set via code: parallelism=8 maxParallelism=64 setStreamTimeCharacteristic(TimeCharacteristic.EventTime) setCheckpointingMode(CheckpointingMode.AT_LEAST_ONCE) setTolerableCheckpointFailureNumber(1000) setMaxConcurrentCheckpoints(1) enableExternalizedCheckpoints(ExternalizedCheckpointCleanup.RETAIN_ON_CANCELLATION) RocksDBStateBackend setPredefinedOptions(PredefinedOptions.FLASH_SSD_OPTIMIZED) setNumberOfTransferThreads(25) setDbStoragePath points to a local nvme SSD Configuration in flink-conf.yaml: jobmanager.rpc.address: localhost jobmanager.rpc.port: 6123 jobmanager.heap.size: 28000m taskmanager.memory.process.size: 28000m taskmanager.memory.jvm-metaspace.size: 512m taskmanager.numberOfTaskSlots: 1 parallelism.default: 1 jobmanager.execution.failover-strategy: full cluster.evenly-spread-out-slots: false taskmanager.memory.network.fraction: 0.2 # default 0.1 taskmanager.memory.framework.off-heap.size: 2GB taskmanager.memory.task.off-heap.size: 2GB taskmanager.network.memory.buffers-per-channel: 32 # default 2 taskmanager.memory.managed.fraction: 0.4 # docs say default 0.1, but something seems to set 0.4 taskmanager.memory.task.off-heap.size: 2048MB # default 128M state.backend.fs.memory-threshold: 1048576 state.backend.fs.write-buffer-size: 10240000 state.backend.local-recovery: true state.backend.rocksdb.writebuffer.size: 64MB state.backend.rocksdb.writebuffer.count: 8 state.backend.rocksdb.writebuffer.number-to-merge: 4 state.backend.rocksdb.timer-service.factory: heap state.backend.rocksdb.block.cache-size: 64000000 # default 8MB state.backend.rocksdb.write-batch-size: 16000000 # default 2MB web.checkpoints.history: 250