Thanks Lars.

I have changed the BLOCKSIZE to 16KB and triggered a major compaction. I
will report my results once it is done.

- Ramu


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 3:21 PM, lars hofhansl <la...@apache.org> wrote:

> First of: 128gb heap per RegionServer. Wow.I'd be interested to hear your
> experience with such a large heap for your RS. It's definitely big enough.
>
>
> It's interesting hat 100gb do fit into the aggregate cache (of 8x32gb),
> while 1.8tb do not.
> Looks like ~70% of the read request would need to bring in a 64kb block in
> order to read 724 bytes.
>
> Should that take 100ms? No. Something's still amiss.
>
> Smaller blocks might help (you'd need to bring in 4, 8, or maybe 16k to
> read the small row). You would need to issue a major compaction for that to
> take effect.
> Maybe try 16k blocks. If that speeds up your random gets we know where to
> look next... At the disk IO.
>
>
> -- Lars
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Ramu M S <ramu.ma...@gmail.com>
> To: user@hbase.apache.org; lars hofhansl <la...@apache.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 11:05 PM
> Subject: Re: HBase Random Read latency > 100ms
>
>
> Lars,
>
> In one of your old posts, you had mentioned that lowering the BLOCKSIZE is
> good for random reads (of course with increased size for Block Indexes).
>
> Post is at http://grokbase.com/t/hbase/user/11bat80x7m/row-get-very-slow
>
> Will that help in my tests? Should I give it a try? If I alter my table,
> should I trigger a major compaction again for this to take effect?
>
> Thanks,
> Ramu
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Ramu M S <ramu.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sorry BLOCKSIZE was wrong in my earlier post, it is the default 64 KB.
> >
> > {NAME => 'usertable', FAMILIES => [{NAME => 'cf', DATA_BLOCK_ENCODING =>
> > 'NONE', BLOOMFILTER => 'ROWCOL', REPLICATION_SCOPE => '0', VERSIONS =>
> '1',
> > COMPRESSION => 'NONE', MIN_VERSIONS => '0', TTL => '2147483647',
> > KEEP_DELETED_CELLS => 'false', BLOCKSIZE => '65536', IN_MEMORY =>
> 'false',
> > ENCODE_ON_DISK => 'true', BLOCKCACHE => 'true'}]}
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ramu
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Ramu M S <ramu.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Lars,
> >>
> >> - Yes Short Circuit reading is enabled on both HDFS and HBase.
> >> - I had issued Major compaction after table is loaded.
> >> - Region Servers have max heap set as 128 GB. Block Cache Size is 0.25
> of
> >> heap (So 32 GB for each Region Server) Do we need even more?
> >> - Decreasing HFile Size (Default is 1GB )? Should I leave it to default?
> >> - Keys are Zipfian distributed (By YCSB)
> >>
> >> Bharath,
> >>
> >> Bloom Filters are enabled. Here is my table details,
> >> {NAME => 'usertable', FAMILIES => [{NAME => 'cf', DATA_BLOCK_ENCODING =>
> >> 'NONE', BLOOMFILTER => 'ROWCOL', REPLICATION_SCOPE => '0', VERSIONS =>
> '1',
> >> COMPRESSION => 'NONE', MIN_VERSIONS => '0', TTL => '2147483647',
> >> KEEP_DELETED_CELLS => 'false', BLOCKSIZE => '16384', IN_MEMORY =>
> 'false',
> >> ENCODE_ON_DISK => 'true', BLOCKCACHE => 'true'}]}
> >>
> >> When the data size is around 100GB (100 Million records), then the
> >> latency is very good. I am getting a throughput of around 300K OPS.
> >> In both cases (100 GB and 1.8 TB) Ganglia stats show that Disk reads are
> >> around 50-60 MB/s throughout the read cycle.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Ramu
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:21 PM, lars hofhansl <la...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Have you enabled short circuit reading? See here:
> >>> http://hbase.apache.org/book/perf.hdfs.html
> >>>
> >>> How's your data locality (shown on the RegionServer UI page).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> How much memory are you giving your RegionServers?
> >>> If you reads are truly random and the data set does not fit into the
> >>> aggregate cache, you'll be dominated by the disk and network.
> >>> Each read would need to bring in a 64k (default) HFile block. If short
> >>> circuit reading is not enabled you'll get two or three context
> switches.
> >>>
> >>> So I would try:
> >>> 1. Enable short circuit reading
> >>> 2. Increase the block cache size per RegionServer
> >>> 3. Decrease the HFile block size
> >>> 4. Make sure your data is local (if it is not, issue a major
> compaction).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -- Lars
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>>  From: Ramu M S <ramu.ma...@gmail.com>
> >>> To: user@hbase.apache.org
> >>> Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 10:01 PM
> >>> Subject: HBase Random Read latency > 100ms
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> My HBase cluster has 8 Region Servers (CDH 4.4.0, HBase 0.94.6).
> >>>
> >>> Each Region Server is with the following configuration,
> >>> 16 Core CPU, 192 GB RAM, 800 GB SATA (7200 RPM) Disk
> >>> (Unfortunately configured with RAID 1, can't change this as the
> Machines
> >>> are leased temporarily for a month).
> >>>
> >>> I am running YCSB benchmark tests on HBase and currently inserting
> around
> >>> 1.8 Billion records.
> >>> (1 Key + 7 Fields of 100 Bytes = 724 Bytes per record)
> >>>
> >>> Currently I am getting a write throughput of around 100K OPS, but
> random
> >>> reads are very very slow, all gets have more than 100ms or more
> latency.
> >>>
> >>> I have changed the following default configuration,
> >>> 1. HFile Size: 16GB
> >>> 2. HDFS Block Size: 512 MB
> >>>
> >>> Total Data size is around 1.8 TB (Excluding the replicas).
> >>> My Table is split into 128 Regions (No pre-splitting used, started
> with 1
> >>> and grew to 128 over the insertion time)
> >>>
> >>> Taking some inputs from earlier discussions I have done the following
> >>> changes to disable Nagle (In both Client and Server hbase-site.xml,
> >>> hdfs-site.xml)
> >>>
> >>> <property>
> >>>   <name>hbase.ipc.client.tcpnodelay</name>
> >>>   <value>true</value>
> >>> </property>
> >>>
> >>> <property>
> >>>   <name>ipc.server.tcpnodelay</name>
> >>>   <value>true</value>
> >>> </property>
> >>>
> >>> Ganglia stats shows large CPU IO wait (>30% during reads).
> >>>
> >>> I agree that disk configuration is not ideal for Hadoop cluster, but as
> >>> told earlier it can't change for now.
> >>> I feel the latency is way beyond any reported results so far.
> >>>
> >>> Any pointers on what can be wrong?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Ramu
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>

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