Yes, you are correct Tim.  I forgot there is an Aries list, my bad!

Thank you for the explanation Tim, that makes perfect sense to me :)   It's
pretty cool to be able to whip up some jaxrs classes without the extra
boiler plate.

Ryan

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 5:30 AM Timothy Ward <timothyjw...@apache.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I feel that the best place to ask this question would be the Apache Aries
> mail list (given that it’s an Aries project).  I’m therefore cross posting
> this back to the Aries list.
>
> In general repackaging a library is intended to shield users from the
> underlying implementation details. In the case of the JAX-RS whiteboard it
> shouldn’t matter whether it’s CXF, Jersey, Restlet, or whatever else under
> the covers. In the specific case of Aries JAX-RS it proved necessary to put
> in some custom extensions to:
>
>
>    1. Get CXF to correctly apply lifecycle to the services that it uses
>    2. Get CXF to natively handle OSGi promises (this involves putting
>    extra code in CXF client packages)
>    3. Avoid some lifecycle issues when CXF was incompletely installed
>
>
> The overall Aries JAX-RS whiteboard project is first and foremost an
> implementation of the OSGi JAX-RS whiteboard specification (it’s the
> reference implementation) so item 2 was already a pretty hard requirement
> for repackaging CXF. Ease of use was a further concern, CXF is big, and
> does a lot more than just JAX-RS which pushed us into building “one bundle
> that works” rather than “a bundle with lots of CXF dependencies that are
> hard to manage and partially redundant”.
>
> Could that be a hinderance around CXF version upgrades when used in a
> project? Such as if there was a security vulnerability in the version of
> CXF that was repackaged?
>
>
> Aries JAX-RS is updated and released regularly. If there’s a security fix
> then rolling it out in a point release would be trivial (update a pom
> property and re-build). I therefore don’t see this as a significant problem.
>
>  CXF works fine in OSGi, why wouldn't is just be pulled as is?
>
>
> CXF *mostly* works fine in OSGi. We needed to add this support
> https://github.com/apache/aries-jax-rs-whiteboard/tree/master/jax-rs.whiteboard/src/main/java/org/apache/cxf/jaxrs/client
>  and
> also to customise the way in which the CXF invocations occur (including the
> resource lifecycle)
> https://github.com/apache/aries-jax-rs-whiteboard/tree/master/jax-rs.whiteboard/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/jax/rs/whiteboard/internal/cxf
>
> The end result is that embedding CXF gives better control over what’s used
> and tested (we have fixed a bunch of CXF bugs as part of building the
> whiteboard!) and is more reliable for our users.
>
> Is this mainly meant for people who really don't care what is used under
> the covers and the version of it, but just want to quickly get a rest
> server up and going?
>
>
> No, this is intended to be a production quality implementation of the OSGi
> JAX-RS Whiteboard specification. The fact that CXF is used is technically
> an implementation detail, but there is a fragment that you can attach to
> export the CXF packages from the Aries whiteboard if you have a desire to
> go CXF native. Using the plain JAX-RS API is the preferred option.
>
> I hope this helps,
>
> Tim
>
> On 16 Jun 2019, at 16:00, Ryan Moquin <fragility...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I was looking at the Aries JAXRS whiteboard example to see how it differs
> from just using CXF directly.  It looks interesting.  My one main concern
> would be around the Aries whiteboard bundle needing to repackage cxf
> dependencies.  Could that be a hinderance around CXF version upgrades when
> used in a project?  Such as if there was a security vulnerability in the
> version of CXF that was repackaged?  CXF works fine in OSGi, why wouldn't
> is just be pulled as is?  Is this mainly meant for people who really don't
> care what is used under the covers and the version of it, but just want to
> quickly get a rest server up and going?
>
> Thanks!
> Ryan
>
>
>

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