Thanks Peter,

Interacting with RDF data through Tinkerpop RDF components seams very
interesting,
I will test it asap.

Any information to load OWL specifications into Neo4J or guidance to design
algorithms (managment of temporary data is the blocking point)?

I would understand if you don't have time to clarify these points ;)

SH



On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Peter Neubauer <
peter.neuba...@neotechnology.com> wrote:

> Sebastian,
> you can use Neo4j with RDF, we are running the Tinkerpop RDF
> components. I am working on a RDF plugin, see
> https://github.com/peterneubauer/sparql-plugin that runs inside the
> Neo4j Server and talks REST.
>
> Java wise you can do like
>
> https://github.com/peterneubauer/sparql-plugin/blob/master/src/main/java/org/neo4j/server/plugin/sparql/SPARQLPlugin.java#L62
> and then execute queries like the Berlin dataset with something like
>
>
> https://github.com/peterneubauer/sparql-plugin/blob/master/src/test/java/org/neo4j/server/plugin/sparql/BerlinDatasetTest.java
>
> Does that help?
>
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>
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> 2011/11/13 Sébastien HARISPE <harispe.sebast...@gmail.com>:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > First of all, Thx a lot for your amazing work, simply astonishing...
> > Below three questions related to my interest in using Neo4J as a Graph DB
> > on top of which I want to test algorithms dedicated to large semantic
> > graphs  (OWL/RDF based).
> > It would be nice if you could help me answer them.
> >
> >
> > A -Using Neo4J with semantic web technologies like RDF/OWL/SPARQL:
> >
> > How does Neo4J interact with these technologies?
> >
> > I found/read:
> >
> >   - an old post explaining how to load OWL into Neo4J using Jena API
> > [1]<
> http://sujitpal.blogspot.com/2009/05/using-neo4j-to-load-and-query-owl.html
> >
> >   .
> >   - interesting classes in the org.neo4j.meta.model package
> > [2<http://components.neo4j.org/neo4j-meta-model/snapshot/>
> >   ,3<
> http://components.neo4j.org/neo4j-meta-model-import/snapshot/apidocs/org/neo4j/meta/input/owl/Owl2GraphDb.html
> >]
> >   but I can't locate the package in the 1.5 apidocs
> > [4]<http://components.neo4j.org/neo4j/1.5/apidocs/>
> >   .
> >   - that the org.neo4j.rdf and org.neo4j.meta do not follow the core
> >   components release, are they currently supported?
> >   - a ticket related to the addition of SPARQL plugin to the Neo4J
> server,
> >   which means that semantic processes are part of your preoccupations ;).
> >
> > Can you detail the position of Neo4J considering OWL/RDF/SPARQL
> > technologies?
> > I can't easily find documentation about Neo4J and OWL
> > [5<http://wiki.neo4j.org/content/OWL,_SPARQL,_SAIL,_and_RDF>],
> > the use of RDF and SPARQL is well detailed however
> > [6]<http://wiki.neo4j.org/content/RDF_/_SPARQL_Quickstart_Guide>
> > .
> > I also read about Sail on top of Neo4j
> > [7]<https://github.com/datablend/neo4j-sail-test>,
> > and to be honest, I'm quite lost...
> >
> > Do you think Neo4J is an interesting solution to interact with these
> > technologies, that is to say, loading OWL specification as graph
> > (simplification of the spec e.g classes, instances relationships between
> > them), adding RDF triplet and using SPARQL?
> >
> >
> >
> > B - Algorithm implementations:
> >
> > As you know many graph algorithms need to store temporary results e.g.
> > Dijkstra stores shortest path cost for all nodes during execution.
> > Due to the size of the graphs, storing this information in memory is not
> > possible most of the time, so how do you manage this information?
> Temporary
> > node properties? Is there guidance to implement algorithms using Neo4J?
> >
> >
> >
> > C - In-memory usage of Neo4J:
> >
> > In-memory graphs are very pleasant in order to perform certain CPU
> > consuming algorithmic treatments on a reduced part of the graph.
> > Considering an old post
> > [8]<http://lists.neo4j.org/pipermail/user/2010-February/002719.html>,
> > a proposed alternative was to rollback the transaction after the
> treatment,
> > i.e load the graph without flushing it. This make sense if you want to
> load
> > a new graph but is it possible to load a specific part of an existing
> graph
> > database in memory? Moreover, in the previously cited post you said that
> > you planned to add an in-memory implementation but I can't find more
> > information in the 1.5 doc, did I missed something?
> >
> > Thx,
> >
> > SH
> >
> > [1]
> >
> http://sujitpal.blogspot.com/2009/05/using-neo4j-to-load-and-query-owl.html
> > [2] http://components.neo4j.org/neo4j-meta-model/snapshot/
> > [3]
> >
> http://components.neo4j.org/neo4j-meta-model-import/snapshot/apidocs/org/neo4j/meta/input/owl/Owl2GraphDb.html
> > [4] http://components.neo4j.org/neo4j/1.5/apidocs/
> > [5] http://wiki.neo4j.org/content/OWL,_SPARQL,_SAIL,_and_RDF
> > [6] http://wiki.neo4j.org/content/RDF_/_SPARQL_Quickstart_Guide
> > [7] https://github.com/datablend/neo4j-sail-test
> > [8] http://lists.neo4j.org/pipermail/user/2010-February/002719.html
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