As in the example data 'intro.csv' in the MIA it has users 1-5 so if I ask
for recommendations for user 1 then this works but if I ask for
recommendations for user 6 (a new user yet to be added to the data model)
then I get no recommendations ... so if I substitute users for orders then
again I will get no recommendations ... which I sort of understand so do I
need to inject my 'new' active order; along with its attached item/s into
the data model first and then ask for the recommendations for the order by
offering up the new orderId? or is there a way of merely offering up an
'item' and then getting recommendations based merely on the item using the
data already stored and the relationships with my item?

My assumptions:
#1
I am assuming the data model is a static island of data that has been
processed (flattened) overnight (most probably by an Hadoop process) due to
the size of this data ... rather than a living document that is updated as
soon as new data is available.
#2
I'm also assuming that instead of reading in the data model and
providing recommendations 'on the fly' I will have to run thru every item
in my catalogue and find out the top 5 recommended items that are ordered
with each item (most probably via a Hadoop process) and then store this
output in dynamoDb or luncene for quick access.

Sorry for all the questions but it such an interesting subject.


On 11 April 2013 22:04, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Actually, making this user based is a really good thing because you get
> recommendations from one session to the next.  These may be much more
> valuable for cross-sell than things in the same order.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Sean Owen <sro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You can try treating your orders as the 'users'. Then just compute
>> item-item similarities per usual.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Billy <b...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> > Thanks for replying,
>> >
>> >
>> > I don't have users, well I do :-) but in this case it should not
>> influence
>> > the recommendations
>> >
>> > ,
>> > these need to be based on the relationship between
>> > "
>> > items ordered with other items
>> > in the 'same order'
>> > ".
>> >
>> > E.g. If item #1 has been order with item #4
>> >
>> > [
>> > 22
>> > ]
>> > times and item #1 has been order with item #9
>> > [
>> > 57
>> > ]
>> > times then
>> > if I added item #1 to my order
>> > these would both be recommended
>> > but item #9 would be recommended above item #4 purely based on the fact
>> that
>> > the relationship between item #1 and item #9 is greater than the
>> > relationship with item #4.
>> >
>> > What I don't want is; if a user ordered items #A, #B, #C separately
>> > 'at some point in their order history' then recommen
>> > d #A and #C to other users who order #B ... I still don't want this if
>> the
>> > items are similar and/or the users similar.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Billy
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 11 Apr 2013 18:28, "Sean Owen" <sro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> This sounds like just a most-similar-items problem. That's good news
>> >> because that's simpler. The only question is how you want to compute
>> >> item-item similarities. That could be based on user-item interactions.
>> >> If you're on Hadoop, try the RowSimilarityJob (where you will need
>> >> rows to be items, columns the users).
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Billy <b...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> >> > I am very new to Mahout and currently just ready up to chapter 5 of
>> >> > 'MIA'
>> >> > but after reading about the various User centric and Item centric
>> >> > recommenders they all seem to still need a userId so still unsure if
>> >> > Mahout
>> >> > can help with a fairly common recommendation.
>> >> >
>> >> > My requirement is to produce 'n' item recommendations based on a
>> chosen
>> >> > item.
>> >> >
>> >> > E.g. "if I've added item #1 to my order then based on all the
>> >> > other items; in all the other orders for this site, what are the
>> >> > likely items that I may also want add to my order based; on the item
>> to
>> >> > item relationship in the history of orders of this site?"
>> >> >
>> >> > Most probably using the most popular relationship between the item I
>> >> > have
>> >> > chosen and all the items in all the other orders.
>> >> >
>> >> > My data is not 'user' specific; and I don't think it should be, but
>> more
>> >> > like order specific as its the pattern of items in each order that
>> >> > should
>> >> > determine the recommendation.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have no preference values so merely boolean preferences will be
>> used.
>> >> >
>> >> > If Mahout can perform these calculations then how must I present the
>> >> > data?
>> >> >
>> >> > Will I need to shape the data in some way to feed into Mahout
>> (currently
>> >> > versed in using Hadoop via Aws Emr using Java)
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for the advice in advance,
>> >> >
>> >> > Billy
>>
>
>

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