CoreOS in and of itself does not try to compete directly with Mesos. Fleet vs 
Mesos is a much better comparison. The biggest difference there is that Mesos 
is battle proven at scale (100K+ node deployments running in PROD for 1+ yrs). 
Fleet is not proven at scale. 

HTH,
JJ.


> On Jan 18, 2015, at 11:15 AM, scott@heroku <sc...@heroku.com> wrote:
> 
> Afaik mesos is much more flexible than fleet, which is the scheduling system 
> on Coreos
> 
> If you can successfully schedule your workloads with fleet you don't need 
> mesos.  If not mesos can do more than fleet.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Victor L <vlyamt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hope this helps some
>> It doesn't as it doesn't even try to answer my question. Let me re- phrase 
>> it: what does mesos on the coreos cluster do that coreos itself doesn't do 
>> already? 
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Jason Giedymin <jason.giedy...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> The value of coreos that immediately comes to mind since I do much work 
>>> with these tools:
>>> 
>>>  - the small foot print, it is a minimal os, meant to run containers. So it 
>>> throws everything not needed for that out.
>>>  - containers are the launch vehicle, thus deps are in container land. I 
>>> can run and test containers with ease, not having to worry about multiple 
>>> OSes.
>>>  - with etcd and fleet, coordinating the launch and modification of both 
>>> machines and cluster make it a breeze. Allowing you to do dynamic mesos 
>>> scaling up or down. I add nodes at will, across multiple cloud platforms, 
>>> ready to launch multitude of containers or just mesos.
>>>  - security. There is a defined write strategy. You cannot write willy 
>>> nilly to any location.
>>>  - all the above further allow auto OS updates, which is supported today on 
>>> all platforms that deploy coreos. This means more frequent updates since 
>>> the os is minimal, which should increase the security effectiveness when 
>>> compared to big box superstore OSes like Redhat or Ubuntu. Some platforms 
>>> charge quite a bit for managed updates of this frequency and level of 
>>> testing.
>>> 
>>> Coreos allows me to keep apps in a configured container that I trust, 
>>> tested, and works time and time again.
>>> 
>>> I see coreos as a compliment.
>>> 
>>> As a fyi I'm available for questions, debugging, and client work in this 
>>> area.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps some, from real world usage.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> > On Jan 18, 2015, at 9:16 AM, Victor L <vlyamt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I am confused: what's the value of mesos on the top of coreos cluster? 
>>> > Mesos provides distributed resource management, fault tolerance, etc., 
>>> > but doesn't coreos provides the same things already?
>>> > Thanks
>> 

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