Re: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave

[craig mcmillan]

not being from a slavery oppressed minority i'm not in a position to 
offer an opinion on the experience of the use of 'slave' in CS 
terminology, and the definition of 'minion' doesn't seem overly more 
empowering

however :
dom / sub

is more fun and a little bit cheeky

:c



On 2 Jun 2015, at 17:44, Brian Devins wrote:

+1 for CCAAT also. master-slave is well established in CS. I am 
intrigued
by minion though

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Nikolay Borodachev <nbo...@adobe.com>
wrote:

+1 for CCAAT's post
-1 for renaming Mesos Slave

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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Renaming Mesos Slave

On 06/01/2015 04:18 PM, Adam Bordelon wrote:
There has been much discussion about finding a less offensive name
than "Slave", and many of these thoughts have been captured in
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-1478

I find political correctness rather nausiating. Folks should stop 
trying
to apologies for what others did, often hundreds of years ago.
I was not part of that. The advanced education system, the political
system and the current wealth control systems around the globe, are 
in fact
and indeed "Master-Slave" relationships; so why cleanse this notion
prematurely?


Master-slave has a rich history in the entire field of compuatational
resources and electronics. That usage has nothing to do with social
conventions and failings of the past. So, if you want to do something
effective for those of us less fortunate, why not use terms like






I would like to open up the discussion on this topic for one week, 
and
if we cannot arrive at a lazy consensus, I will draft a proposal 
from
the discussion and call for a VOTE.
Here are the questions I would like us to answer:
1. What should we call the "Mesos Slave" node/host/machine?
2. What should we call the "mesos-slave" process (could be the 
same)?
Elite-taxpayer  or  Lawyer-citizen or Billionare-wager  or
Professor-debtor ?

Something more apropo?

3. Do we need to rename Mesos Master too?

The concept of a master has been around ever since (2) males or more
graced this planet (your theories of soccial evilutoin may vary but 
they
are irrelevant).

Commander? General ? Generalisimo?   Master_Chief  Warlord?

Why not get rid of the entire Apache evironment why you are at it?
This line of reasoning is nothing but *STUPID*   You cannot errase
the history of the warrior existence of mankind. Nor should any today
apologize for historical convention. WE did not commit any bad deeds
before we were born, so just get over it!



Another topic worth discussing is the deprecation process, but we 
don't
necessarily need to decide on that at the same time as deciding the 
new
name(s).
4. How will we phase in the new name and phase out the old name?

Please voice your thoughts and opinions below.

Thanks!
-Adam-

P.S. My personal thoughts:
1. Mesos Worker [Node]
2. Mesos Worker or Agent
3. No
4. Carefully


This is the sadest thread I have ever read.

James