Hi Tom,

After the patch was applied, there is no need to restart framework but only
mesos master.

One question is that I saw from your log, seems your cluster has at least
36 agents, right? I was asking this question because if there are more
frameworks than agents, frameworks with low weight may not able to get
resources sometimes.

Can you please enable GLOG_v=2 for mesos master for a while and put the log
somewhere for us to check (Do not enable this for a long time as you will
get log message flooded), this kind of log messages may give some help for
your problem.

Another is that there is another problem trying to fix another performance
issue for allocator but may not help you much, but you can still take a
look: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-4694

Thanks,

Guangya

On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 2:19 AM, Tom Arnfeld <t...@duedil.com> wrote:

> Hi Ben,
>
> We've rolled that patch out (applied over 0.23.1) on our production
> cluster and have seen little change, the master is still not sending any
> offers to those frameworks. We did this upgrade online, so would there be
> any reason the fix wouldn't have helped (other than it not being the
> cause)? Would we need to restart the frameworks (so they get new IDs) to
> see the effect?
>
> It's not that the master is never sending them offers, it's that it does
> it up to a certain point... for different types of frameworks (all using
> libmesos) but then no more, regardless of how much free resource is
> available... the free resources are offered to some frameworks, but not
> all. Is there any way for us to do more introspection into the state of the
> master / allocator to try and debug? Right now we're at a bit of a loss of
> where to start diving in...
>
> Much appreciated as always,
>
> Tom.
>
> On 18 February 2016 at 10:21, Tom Arnfeld <t...@duedil.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ben,
>>
>> I've only just seen your email! Really appreciate the reply, that's
>> certainly an interesting bug and we'll try that patch and see how we get on.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tom.
>>
>> On 29 January 2016 at 19:54, Benjamin Mahler <bmah...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tom,
>>>
>>> I suspect you may be tripping the following issue:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-4302
>>>
>>> Please have a read through this and see if it applies here. You may also
>>> be able to apply the fix to your cluster to see if that helps things.
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Tom Arnfeld <t...@duedil.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey,
>>>>
>>>> I've noticed some interesting behaviour recently when we have lots of
>>>> different frameworks connected to our Mesos cluster at once, all using a
>>>> variety of different shares. Some of the frameworks don't get offered more
>>>> resources (for long periods of time, hours even) leaving the cluster under
>>>> utilised.
>>>>
>>>> Here's an example state where we see this happen..
>>>>
>>>> Framework 1 - 13% (user A)
>>>> Framework 2 - 22% (user B)
>>>> Framework 3 - 4% (user C)
>>>> Framework 4 - 0.5% (user C)
>>>> Framework 5 - 1% (user C)
>>>> Framework 6 - 1% (user C)
>>>> Framework 7 - 1% (user C)
>>>> Framework 8 - 0.8% (user C)
>>>> Framework 9 - 11% (user D)
>>>> Framework 10 - 7% (user C)
>>>> Framework 11 - 1% (user C)
>>>> Framework 12 - 1% (user C)
>>>> Framework 13 - 6% (user E)
>>>>
>>>> In this example, there's another ~30% of the cluster that is
>>>> unallocated, and it stays like this for a significant amount of time until
>>>> something changes, perhaps another user joins and allocates the rest....
>>>> chunks of this spare resource is offered to some of the frameworks, but not
>>>> all of them.
>>>>
>>>> I had always assumed that when lots of frameworks were involved,
>>>> eventually the frameworks that would keep accepting resources indefinitely
>>>> would consume the remaining resource, as every other framework had rejected
>>>> the offers.
>>>>
>>>> Could someone elaborate a little on how the DRF allocator / sorter
>>>> handles this situation, is this likely to be related to the different users
>>>> being used? Is there a way to mitigate this?
>>>>
>>>> We're running version 0.23.1.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Tom.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>


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Guangya Liu (εˆ˜ε…‰δΊš)
Senior Software Engineer
DCOS and OpenStack Development
IBM Platform Computing
Systems and Technology Group

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