Hi Tom,

I traced the agent of "20160112-165226-67375276-5050-22401-S199" and found
that it is keeps declining by many frameworks: once a framework got it, the
framework will decline it immediately. Does some your framework has special
offer filter logic?

Also I want to get more for your cluster:
1) What is the role for each framework and what is the weight for each role?
2) Do you start all agents without any reservation?

Thanks,

Guangya

On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Klaus Ma <klaus1982...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Tom,
>
> What's the allocation interval, can you try to reduce filter's timeout of
> framework?
>
> According to the log, ~12 frameworks on cluster with ~42 agents; the
> filter duration is 5sec, and there're ~60 times filtered in each seconds
> (e.g. 65 in 18:08:34). For example, framework 
> (20160219-164457-67375276-5050-28802-0015)
> just get resources from 6 agents and filtered the other 36 agents at
> 18:08:35 (egrep "Alloca|Filtered" mesos-master.log | grep
> "20160219-164457-67375276-5050-28802-0015" | grep "18:08:35")
>
> Thanks
> Klaus
>
> ------------------------------
> From: t...@duedil.com
> Subject: Re: Mesos sometimes not allocating the entire cluster
> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:36:54 +0000
> To: user@mesos.apache.org
>
> Hi Guangya,
>
> Indeed we have about ~45 agents. I’ve attached the log from the master…
>
>
>
> Hope there’s something here that highlights the issue, we can’t find
> anything that we can’t explain.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tom.
>
> On 19 Feb 2016, at 03:02, Guangya Liu <gyliu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> After the patch was applied, there is no need to restart framework but
> only mesos master.
>
> One question is that I saw from your log, seems your cluster has at least
> 36 agents, right? I was asking this question because if there are more
> frameworks than agents, frameworks with low weight may not able to get
> resources sometimes.
>
> Can you please enable GLOG_v=2 for mesos master for a while and put the
> log somewhere for us to check (Do not enable this for a long time as you
> will get log message flooded), this kind of log messages may give some help
> for your problem.
>
> Another is that there is another problem trying to fix another performance
> issue for allocator but may not help you much, but you can still take a
> look: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-4694
>
> Thanks,
>
> Guangya
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 2:19 AM, Tom Arnfeld <t...@duedil.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Ben,
>
> We've rolled that patch out (applied over 0.23.1) on our production
> cluster and have seen little change, the master is still not sending any
> offers to those frameworks. We did this upgrade online, so would there be
> any reason the fix wouldn't have helped (other than it not being the
> cause)? Would we need to restart the frameworks (so they get new IDs) to
> see the effect?
>
> It's not that the master is never sending them offers, it's that it does
> it up to a certain point... for different types of frameworks (all using
> libmesos) but then no more, regardless of how much free resource is
> available... the free resources are offered to some frameworks, but not
> all. Is there any way for us to do more introspection into the state of the
> master / allocator to try and debug? Right now we're at a bit of a loss of
> where to start diving in...
>
> Much appreciated as always,
>
> Tom.
>
> On 18 February 2016 at 10:21, Tom Arnfeld <t...@duedil.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Ben,
>
> I've only just seen your email! Really appreciate the reply, that's
> certainly an interesting bug and we'll try that patch and see how we get on.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tom.
>
> On 29 January 2016 at 19:54, Benjamin Mahler <bmah...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I suspect you may be tripping the following issue:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-4302
>
> Please have a read through this and see if it applies here. You may also
> be able to apply the fix to your cluster to see if that helps things.
>
> Ben
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Tom Arnfeld <t...@duedil.com> wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> I've noticed some interesting behaviour recently when we have lots of
> different frameworks connected to our Mesos cluster at once, all using a
> variety of different shares. Some of the frameworks don't get offered more
> resources (for long periods of time, hours even) leaving the cluster under
> utilised.
>
> Here's an example state where we see this happen..
>
> Framework 1 - 13% (user A)
> Framework 2 - 22% (user B)
> Framework 3 - 4% (user C)
> Framework 4 - 0.5% (user C)
> Framework 5 - 1% (user C)
> Framework 6 - 1% (user C)
> Framework 7 - 1% (user C)
> Framework 8 - 0.8% (user C)
> Framework 9 - 11% (user D)
> Framework 10 - 7% (user C)
> Framework 11 - 1% (user C)
> Framework 12 - 1% (user C)
> Framework 13 - 6% (user E)
>
> In this example, there's another ~30% of the cluster that is unallocated,
> and it stays like this for a significant amount of time until something
> changes, perhaps another user joins and allocates the rest.... chunks of
> this spare resource is offered to some of the frameworks, but not all of
> them.
>
> I had always assumed that when lots of frameworks were involved,
> eventually the frameworks that would keep accepting resources indefinitely
> would consume the remaining resource, as every other framework had rejected
> the offers.
>
> Could someone elaborate a little on how the DRF allocator / sorter handles
> this situation, is this likely to be related to the different users being
> used? Is there a way to mitigate this?
>
> We're running version 0.23.1.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tom.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Guangya Liu (刘光亚)
> Senior Software Engineer
> DCOS and OpenStack Development
> IBM Platform Computing
> Systems and Technology Group
>
>
>


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Guangya Liu (刘光亚)
Senior Software Engineer
DCOS and OpenStack Development
IBM Platform Computing
Systems and Technology Group

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