I agree with Jacques the data model is adequate but the implementation of VAT *is* large and detailed.
It is further complicated by adjustments with/without tax, promotions and tax on adjustments and maintaining shoppingCart relationships between eg shipping adj and the tax on that adjustment. If it were not a large job (or if more people had a common interest) it would have been done years ago. (disclosure of hidden agenda: I would dearly love to have a more complete VAT/GST implementation within the core rather than piece-meal custom add-ons ;) ) > -----Original Message----- > From: Jacques Le Roux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2007 4:02 AM > To: user@ofbiz.apache.org > Subject: Re: state of VAT support > > Yes I agree, there are no problems with the data model : it's > just great ! And actually yes it's not so hard to do (I was > able to do it order manager ;o). But generalisation (dealing > with excluded *or* included prices with a store parameter) > in all parts (not only order manager) need some more works > and *testing*. > > Not only UI reviews and changes are needed, some more on how > tax calculation is done on background. Mostly when updating > orders or adding items : adjustments have to be tuned > (Shipment and Handling, Gift Wrap, etc.). At least the way I > did it, which is perhaps not the better way (but it works so far :o) > > Jacques > > ----- Message d'origine ----- > De : "David E Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Just a quick thought on this... I don't think what remains > to be done > > is too large and risky, unless major design flaws are found > in the current TaxAuthority features that are meant to > support VAT. Of course, how VAT is handle DOES vary a bit > from country to country, so implementers in one country may > have a different experience that those in another. > > > > This stuff has been used as a basis for custom apps and has > gone into > > production, so chances are like you're saying Jacques that > there are just some UI review and changes that need to be > made, like displaying prices with tax (or because it is a > CSR/manager app with and without tax) in the Order Manager. > > > > (disclosure of hidden agenda: I don't want to say this is > too large or > > risky because it reduces the chances of someone taking the > plunge and working on it... ;) ) > > > > -David > > > > > > Jacques Le Roux wrote: > > > AFAIK nothing more than some cosmetic improvements have > been done. > > > I'm currently workin for an UK client on some VAT improvement > in > > > order manager UI (dealing with gross prices, not VAT > excluded prices > > > shown to users). Most of the job is done but I'm not sure > I will be > > > able to contribute it back to OFBiz because there is a lot of > > > intricated customisations. Also it's only a part of the > problem, but > > > the main part I guess. Anyway I have not enough time yet to > > > contribute it (the client is OK) and if I do I will > have to > > > generalise it (of course some will prefer to see VAT > excluded prices > > > as it is now). This is something we need in Europe (at > least) > > > but nobody seems ready to pay the price yet : it's a > large and risky development. > > > > > > Jacques > > > > > > > > > De : "David Goodenough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> A few months ago there was a discussion about the state of VAT > > >> support in OfBiz, and as I recall there was a little work to be > > >> done. Has that work been done? > > >> > > >> I ask because we have the opportunity to use OfBiz for a UK > > >> business, and obviously VAT is important. OfBiz would > seem to be a > > >> very good fit to what is needed, and would cut development time > > >> considerably so we would like to use it if we can. > > >> > > >> David > > > > >