Agreed roles should be configurable describing the roles party would play
within the system. However, my requirement is more closer to Identity of the
person and an implied role (cannot be changed). To pick on the same
contractor example, a subtype of person, the compensation of the person is
very different from employees another subtype. Assumption, contractor cannot
become employee. They both can play the same roles which makes it hard to
distinguish workflows based on roles alone. Some more researching and I find
party classification could be a way besides party types and I am wondering
which is one is better suited. Differentiation is not just in workflow but
presentation as well.  Since fundamentally as I mentioned it is part of
identity of the person, a subtype seemed appropriate. Looking for
suggestions. I am looking at the same reasons which led to having 'party
group' and 'person' as types within partymgr.   

- Arays


David E Jones-4 wrote:
> 
> 
> Some more food for thought: not only should you not have a primary  
> role for a user, you should never even look at the role of a user on  
> its own... roles should be used to describe a relationship between a  
> party and something else in the system (another party, a product, a  
> task, an order, etc, etc).
> 
> That should solve your workflow problem...
> 
> -David
> 
> 
> On Oct 3, 2009, at 10:59 PM, ARays wrote:
> 
>>
>> ah! there definitely is a catch. However, if one were to have a
>> base/principal role/purpose (sort of their primary which is not  
>> expected to
>> change) then one can base some workflows on that.. To share my  
>> scenario, I
>> am looking to use ofbiz for back office use where the workflow  
>> changes quite
>> dramatically for employees vs contractors. They can obviously play  
>> different
>> roles such as sales clerk, manager, accountant etc, but the way they  
>> are
>> compensated for example is different. Not sure if that makes sense  
>> in the
>> context of ofbiz, but I am looking at ways to support such a  
>> scenario. For
>> example in PartyMgr Orders makes sense for customers, but may not as  
>> much
>> for employees and my intent is to have context specific (primary  
>> purpose of
>> their engagement) viewprofiles and be able to extend the datamodel
>> appropriately for each segment of user.
>>
>> As I mentioned I did consider using roles to differentiate, but then  
>> the
>> challenge may be that down the line someone might change or drop  
>> roles which
>> can complicate matters. The idea is to treat the primary purpose  
>> much like
>> the 'sex of a person' which is not expected to change in most cases  
>> if not
>> all ;-)
>>
>> - Arays
>>
>>
>>
>> David E Jones-4 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> How would this handle a Party that is in multiple roles, as the  
>>> current
>>> model does?
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 03, 2009, at 12:03PM, "ARays" <a...@kenfuse.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to get party entries to be a little more fine grained.  
>>>> For now
>>>> it seems like there are only two types in use 'person' &  
>>>> 'partygroup'. The
>>>> view profile reflects this difference. However, I would like to  
>>>> control it
>>>> some more based on whether the party person is primarily an  
>>>> employee or
>>>> contractor etc. Which is a better option to go about the same?
>>>> a) Use roles to distinguish between different types. This may cause
>>>> integrity problems since any workflow based on roles may break if  
>>>> the
>> roles
>>>> are changed down the line.
>>>> b) Use the partyTypeId to distinguish. This seems like a cleaner  
>>>> approach.
>>>> However, I am unable to find out how and where partyTypeId is set.  
>>>> I would
>>>> expect to extend person with sub types as employee, contractor  
>>>> etc, say as
>>>> below
>>>>
>>>>   <PartyType description="Employee" hasTable="N"  
>>>> parentTypeId="PERSON"
>>>> partyTypeId="EMPLOYEE"/>
>>>>   <PartyType description="Contractor" hasTable="N"  
>>>> parentTypeId="PERSON"
>>>> partyTypeId="CONTRACTOR"/>
>>>>
>>>> Looking for some inputs/suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Arays
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