Hi Chris With all due respect, your desire to replace the entity engine with hibernate exhibits a serious lack of understanding of one of OFBiz's core design philosophies. This has been discussed many times so I don't want to rehash the debate here but I do strongly suggest that you search the mailing lists for discussions pertaining to hibernate and ORM in general.
Regards Scott HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com On 26/02/2010, at 8:32 AM, Christopher Snow wrote: > Hi Jacques, > > Thanks for the comments. > > Not sure how grails handles extension of artifacts (except that Controllers > and Services are classes so theoretically could be extended). > > Grails only needs to be restarted when the hibernate definitions have changed > (I think). Controller and Service changes are dynamically reloaded in > development mode without a restart. > > Grails has: |"grails create-app helloworld" which is the equivalent of > creating an ofbiz component. > > In ofbiz, I always have to jump into the ofbiz code, even if its just to > configure it (e.g. data sources). In grails, the component configuration is > done in the component itself. I would never expect you to modify the core > grails code and create patches to ship with your application - this is a big > disadvantage with ofbiz. > > Please don't think I'm giving ofbiz a hard time. Don't forget, I'm > interested in creating a standalone ofbiz framework (which would be > especially useful for my current government client), but I'm not sure that > the framework on it's own carrys any benefits compared to grails. It's the > business applications that give ofbiz the most advantage. > > Cheers, > > Chris > | > > Jacques Le Roux wrote: >> And one of the most important thing but not obvious in OFBiz, extension and >> reutilisation of artifacts. >> From hot-deploy, you can build your own applicaiton based on the trunk (or >> release but I'd recommend trunk for easier update later) without touching >> much of OFBiz itself. If you handle it right you may end with a couple of >> small patches. There are even small tools around, see ant - p, to deal with >> hat. This is where is the real OFBiz expertise, it takes some time to >> understand and use... >> Also OFBiz is *great* when it comes to *not* compile, reboot, compile, >> reboot, compile, reboot, compile, reboot, compile, reboot, compile, reboot, >> OK you see... >> >> Jacques >> >> From: "Ruth Hoffman" <rhoff...@aesolves.com> >> >> >>> Hi Jacopo: >>> >>> IMO, one should always give positive affirmations when responding to posts >>> like these. OFBiz has plenty of great things we can say that shouldn't >>> require much effort on your part to comment on: >>> >>> How about the seamless and transparent database support by way of the >>> Entity Engine? If you want to develop an application or implement ERP, >>> then you don't need to worry about the database. You don't need to stress >>> over whether to use Hiberanate or JDO or native SQL or whatever the latest >>> database technology fad happens to be. The EE is here, its proven and best >>> of all I don't have to deal with it! I can get on to developing my >>> applications. >>> >>> Or the really cool Service Engine that lets me write reusable code. Java or >>> otherwise! >>> >>> Or all the framework tools that have been integrated and proven. Everything >>> from Internationalization and localization support to XML document >>> handling. (Personally, I'm tired of having to integrate XML parsers every >>> time I need that functionality in an application.) >>> >>> How hard is it to list some of these features? Take the "high road". >>> >>> Ruth >>> >>> >>> >>> Jacopo Cappellato wrote: >>>> On Feb 26, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Christopher Snow wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hey come on Jacopo - overall I'm actually trying to promote the use of >>>>> ofbiz. I've invested a considerable amount of time in it. >>>>> >>>>> I was hoping that my question would get ofbiz supporters to list some of >>>>> the benefits of ofbiz over grails. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Eh eh... this time your attempt will not help you to get easy information >>>> (at least from me): you will have to do your own research :-) >>>> >>>> Jacopo >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Jacopo Cappellato wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 26, 2010, at 1:20 PM, Christopher Snow wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can't think of anything other than this that the ofbiz framework >>>>>>>> provides that grails doesn't. >>>>>>>> >>>>>> If you are blind, all you can see is darkness. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacopo >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
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