When was the last time you worked on a project where you only needed a tool for 
persistence and didn't need tools for anything else?

On the other hand, if you really LIKE to roll your own framework for each 
project, and based on tools that aren't necessarily meant to work together, 
then the approach you mentioned below is a great way to enjoy endless evenings 
and weekends. On the other hand, if you want to focus on developing things 
needed for applications instead of digging around in a framework for weeks and 
deciding how to do every little thing, then it's nice to have a complete 
framework to start with so you can efficiently work on the stuff that is 
important to your client.

-David


On Sep 18, 2010, at 2:48 AM, chris snow wrote:

> I'm sorry for pushing this off-track by mentioning hibernate. The important
> point is that the technologies aren't important.  There are many
> technologies that could be used for the entity engine, and as BJ has pointed
> out, the ofbiz entity engine is very good. The problem for me is that the
> entity engine is deeply interwined with the rest of ofbiz.  These
> dependencies need to be managed.  Having a more modular ofbiz has advantages
> for ofbiz as a whole and for each module.
> 
> On 18 Sep 2010 09:03, "BJ Freeman" <bjf...@free-man.net> wrote:
> 
> One of the reason I came to ofbiz was to get away from the bloat of ORM.
> if I read the modeler right that is swt based Gui which introduces a
> communication layer back to the server, unlike ofbiz being generated on the
> fly into html, from the server.
> 
> BTw I have a Commercial Swt Gui Generator and use it for my legacy apps I
> converted to ofbiz, as well as the communications layer using JNL.
> 
> =========================
> BJ Freeman
> 
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> james_sg sent the following on 9/18/2010 12:24 AM:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Apache Cayenne has the closest match to OFBiz Entity Engine.
>> 
>> A few points abo...

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