researching and developing the tools as I write this.
hopefully and christmas present to ofbiz. will put in Docbooks help when ready, via a jira. ========================= BJ Freeman Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/5/2010 5:23 AM:
"Webtools converters to go from wiki to dochelp and dochelp to wiki" ? Where it is? An URL? A service? Thanks Jacques From: "BJ Freeman" <bjf...@free-man.net>sounds good, I hope you don't mind that I put my energy into the putting these into the ofbiz dochelp. http://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/cmssite/cms/APACHE_OFBIZ_HTML based on my email in Dev, I decided that it is more productive in my time to put everything in dockhelp and use webtools converters to go from wiki to dochelp and dochelp to wiki. Or what every format we decide, like the PDF and Html. ========================= BJ Freeman Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/5/2010 2:12 AM:I agree that it should be splitted. But IMO not in pages but clear sections in the same page. This because it's easier to find the same thing in the same page when you are looking for the information without following a specific path (ie when using search in wiki or even outside of the wiki)From https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBizYou propose Multitenancy Basic Architecture Multitenancy for Automated self service Multitenancy support I think we should 1st check/refactor the current page https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support And then split in sections following the page you proposed but still in the sole Multitenancy+support page Also we need to clean the Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz page and at some point those pages should be move to OFBiz Technical Documentation space. Though it's closed and there are less and less efforts in the closed part of the wiki :/, which makes me wonder about it... I will be happy to help, what do you think? Jacques From: "BJ Freeman" <bjf...@free-man.net>I looked at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support and the focus seems to being diluted and confusing. I suggest some be moved to https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz as with different pages for different tenant architectures. ========================= BJ Freeman Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man BJ Freeman sent the following on 12/4/2010 11:45 AM:thanks, no, will. Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/4/2010 10:05 AM:You wrotethe concept I went with more self service.DB assignment in the TenantDataSource is created in a setup from the BaseThat's what I was talking about. Did you explain it in the wiki page? Jacques From: "BJ Freeman" <bjf...@free-man.net>can you clarify what you asking about, couple of key words would help. I think the answer is Yes, but not sure what I am saying yes to. :D ========================= BJ Freeman Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/3/2010 7:53 PM:Hi BJ, Did you get a change to add your way of doing it? Jacques From: "Carsten Schinzer" <c.schin...@googlemail.com> Yup, It's runnign here and soon for some customers. But you're right: I am not intending to do much of dynamic, self-service stuff since my offer looks more after "managed services" including data loads, configuration help etc. That's why I can still afford to have "maintenance windows" and my customers are local shops who mostly don't care when they can't access their tools during weekend-eve's (and we're all one single timeezone as well). So forgive me if I have messed up anything in the documentation, but maybe it's worth we describe both ways in the online documentation? Regards Carsten 2010/10/22 BJ Freeman <bjf...@free-man.net>just a thought, you can use a schedule service to export entities like is done by webtools. this gives you your data that has been added. a timed service or cron job can run a svn update for your local svn. this gives you versoning, as well a reload abiliity, if necessary So your documentation of using the entityengine.xml and Ant for tenant says that the whole tenant systems has to be shutdown, every time you add a tenant. i can see that for a intranet type of website, but not for and internet type of website. For an internet type you would have to have scheduled maintainence, which mean the new client has to wait, or daily maintainence that means the other tenants are interrupted a lot. I have not looked at the code, but I don't think that those loaded from the entityengine.xml for tenants are access by the tenant code, since it is not loaded into the cache for the entity TenantDataSource. Have you run the setup you documented? ========================= BJ Freeman Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation < http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Carsten Schinzer sent the following on 10/22/2010 6:39 AM: Hm seems like I'm a console freak then ;-)I prefer controlled initial dataloads from a repository (to have version history). And I do a lot of catalogue management actually using XSLT and XML loads / uploads. Well, too much operations minded from may day-job I guess. Thanks for the hint. Maybe also something that needs to be added to the wiki page? Regards Carsten 2010/10/22 BJ Freeman<bjf...@free-man.net> the concept I went with more self service.DB assignment in the TenantDataSource is created in a setup from the Base (default) DB. A script is run that actually creates the DB based on the System setup, then added to the TenantDataSource. At this point the script is not configurable and has to be modified based on how the provider has their DB server set up. The Seed data is loaded on the fly, not using Ant. they are then switched to their DB they are then sent to setup to build their system. This includes providing images for logos and other parameters to make their Themes, and that is loaded on the fly into their DB. this is similar to the products Images but instead creates a theme for this tenant. Based on the above the Tenant DB is stored in the TenantDataSource DB, instead of the entityengine.xml, as it was originally designed to do. So no restart of ofbiz is necessary. the ant configuration, in my opinion should only be used to setup the basic Tenant system. ========================= BJ Freeman Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation< http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Carsten Schinzer sent the following on 10/22/2010 12:30 AM: All,I've done some extended research and have played around with the configuration. I have taken the liberty to add my findings in a section on Multitenant Configuraiton at: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support Please review and let me know your comments if there are any. I guess with this we can close the issue and make life easier for the next multitenant users. Regards Carsten 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com> I really don't know much about the multi tenant functionality, it's newand I haven't used it. But yeah you do need that tenant group mapped to a datasource, it contains a set of tables that are needed in addition to the separate tenant databases (I think). Regards Scott On 21/10/2010, at 11:57 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote: Well, so possibly a mistake in the documents as the multitenantdatasourceswould be defined in the config file placed on data/... (as mentionedabove).Using your aproach, I would be using the entityengine.xml to define anydatasource required? Then for data loading: How do I address a certain datasource? I had the idea to use defined readers like e.g. <entity-data-reader name="ext-tenant1"/> and define those readers only for the respective data sources. Does that make sense? Thanks for the tip! I'll play around a little with this idea. Just one last question: What is the dedicated TenantDatasources.xml file then used for at all? To map the datasource to the respective tenant logins?Because irritatingly, this file also references jdbcUri, jdbcUsernameand jdbcPassword. But all that I would have specified in entityengine.xml as well. Well, it looks like I'd update some documents once I found my way through this. Stay tuned :) Regards Carsten 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com> OOTB in 10.04 the delegator definition looks like this:<delegator name="default" entity-model-reader="main" entity-group-reader="main" entity-eca-reader="main" distributed-cache-clear-enabled="false"> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz" datasource-name="localderby"/> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.olap" datasource-name="localderbyolap"/> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.tenant" datasource-name="localderbytenant"/> </delegator> Your one appears to be missing the last group-map for org.ofbiz.tenant andI'm guessing that is the problem. I have no idea why you and BJ weremissing that entry though, it was there before 10.04 existed. Regards Scott HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com On 21/10/2010, at 9:42 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote: Hi Scott,well, I digged out this old thread as the very same seemed happening to BJas well. Here's a little context:I am aiming at multitenant along with PostGreSQL database, i.e. I have created the DB for each tenant. I changed entityengine.xml to use the localpostnew DataSource in the defaultdelegator:<delegator name="default" entity-model-reader="main" entity-group-reader="main" entity-eca-reader="main" distributed-cache-clear-enabled="false"> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz" datasource-name="localpostnew"/><group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.olap"datasource-name="localderbyolap"/></delegator> of course localpostnew is updated with connection string info as usual andthe respective postgres drivers are placed in{ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\lib\jdbc Now the multitenant info, i.e. the datasource setup for each Tenant's database, went to the xml file in {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\data\TenantDataSources.xml (the filename is different and is updated accordingly in {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\ofbiz-component.xml If I choose the localderby datasource, everything goes just nice and thedatabases are generated, data loaded etc.If I change to the above configuration, i.e. using localpostnew, ofbiz throws an exception as follows * COMMAND ISSUED:* D:\__eclipse\ofbiz-multitenant>java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install -readers=seed-initial -delegator=default *CONSOLE OUTPUT:* Set OFBIZ_HOME to - D:/__eclipse/ofbiz-multitenant (...) 2010-10-20 18:28:34,283 (main) [ ModelReader.java:389:INFO ] FINISHEDLOADING ENTITIES - ALL FILES; #Entities=849 #ViewEntities=267#Fields=8870#Relationships=2925 #AutoRelationships=21572010-10-20 18:28:34,392 (main) [ GenericDelegator.java:244:INFO ] Doingentity definition check...2010-10-20 18:28:34,408 (main) [ ModelEntityChecker.java:502:INFO ][initReservedWords] array length=1023 Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException atorg.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.getEntityFieldType(GenericDelegator.java:555)atorg.ofbiz.entity.model.ModelEntityChecker.checkEntities(ModelEntityChecker.java:101)atorg.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.<init>(GenericDelegator.java:245)atorg.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)atorg.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)atorg.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)atorg.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)atorg.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.java:230)atorg.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326) at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411) 2010-10-20 18:28:34,627 (OFBiz_Shutdown_Hook) [ ContainerLoader.java:113:INFO ] Shutting down containers I would like to understand the following: - what is going wrong? OFBIZ seems to have issues with the entityfieldtypes for postnew. This is not observed for single tenant OFBIZsetups -- or no-one out there is using single instances on postgreswithrelease 10.04 or later.- how can I dig deeper into the issue? Reviewing the classes I do see sporadic log statement which I do not find back on the console, hence: wherecan I switch log levels for a component or the entire ofbizinstance? Hint for any of these two are much appreciated. And thanks for focussing back on the topic :-) Regards Carsten 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com> Sorry my bad.Could you explain what changes you've made to the entityengine.xml thatgotyou to the point of something not working?Thanks Scott HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com On 21/10/2010, at 6:04 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote: Hmmm. Again this has gone off towards debugging/logging (just liketheolderthread from June).Anyone with proposals on how to include the Tenant datasources into entityengine.xml as BJ indicated he had found a workaround for this issuethat involves this? BJ?Thanks Carsten 2010/10/21 David E Jones<d...@me.com> On Oct 20, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Scott Gray wrote:On 21/10/2010, at 10:39 AM, James McGill wrote:On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:08 AM, BJ Freeman< bjf...@free-man.netwrote:Not sure why it worked in derby mode but not in postgresql.but it hung up on the tenant entity. but adding the tenant stuff into the entityengine.xml it no longererrors.I am such a slouch I used one line of debug.loginfo to find theproblem.someday I will put energy into the remote debugging.:DI find remote debugging is extremely easy, using Eclipse. Ifonly therewasa way to step into minilang services -- they make remotedebuggingprettyfrustrating, especially if you want to breakpoint an ECA.You can cheat a little sometimes with that. I regularly drop in this:<log level="always" message="${someVar}"/><transaction-rollback/>Obviously not as good as breakpoints but you can move it around and justkeep refreshing the browser to continually execute the method andnevercommit the changes.Actually, IMO, when you don't have to worry about compile/run cycles Ilikelogging better than break points and variable inspection. Itrequiresalittle more typing, but a LOT less clicking and watching andbrowsingthrough data. In fact, IMO logging is faster when you don't have toworryabout compilation making things intolerably slow. It's kind of likecommand-line versus a purely graphical way of doing things. Of course, to each their own... most programmers can't seem to handlesomething that they aren't used and/or wasn't their idea... ;)-David-- Best Carsten Schinzer Waisenhausstr. 53a 80637 München Germany-- Best Carsten Schinzer Waisenhausstr. 53a 80637 München Germany-- Best Carsten Schinzer Waisenhausstr. 53a 80637 München Germany
