Very good BJ, thanks for having another supporter of the docbook help
system.

Please put in jira, i will commit it.

Regards,
Hans

On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 05:44 -0800, BJ Freeman wrote:
> researching and developing the tools as I write this.
> 
> hopefully and christmas present to ofbiz.
> will put in Docbooks help when ready, via a jira.
> 
> 
> =========================
> BJ Freeman
> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  
> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
> Specialtymarket.com  <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
> 
> Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> 
> 
> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/5/2010 5:23 AM:
> > "Webtools converters to go from wiki to dochelp and dochelp to wiki" ?
> > Where it is? An URL? A service?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> > From: "BJ Freeman" <bjf...@free-man.net>
> >> sounds good, I hope you don't mind that I put my energy into the
> >> putting these into the ofbiz dochelp.
> >> http://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/cmssite/cms/APACHE_OFBIZ_HTML
> >> based on my email in Dev,
> >> I decided that it is more productive in my time to put everything in
> >> dockhelp and use webtools converters to go from wiki to dochelp and
> >> dochelp to wiki. Or what every format we decide, like the PDF and Html.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> =========================
> >> BJ Freeman
> >> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
> >> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
> >> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
> >> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
> >>
> >> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> >>
> >>
> >> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/5/2010 2:12 AM:
> >>> I agree that it should be splitted. But IMO not in pages but clear
> >>> sections in the same page.
> >>> This because it's easier to find the same thing in the same page when
> >>> you are looking for the information without following a
> >>> specific path (ie when using search in wiki or even outside of the wiki)
> >>>
> >>>> From
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> You propose
> >>> Multitenancy Basic Architecture
> >>> Multitenancy for Automated self service
> >>> Multitenancy support
> >>>
> >>> I think we should 1st check/refactor the current page
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
> >>>
> >>> And then split in sections following the page you proposed but still in
> >>> the sole Multitenancy+support page
> >>>
> >>> Also we need to clean the Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz page
> >>> and at some point those pages should be move to OFBiz Technical
> >>> Documentation space. Though it's closed and there are less and less
> >>> efforts in the closed part of the wiki :/, which makes me wonder about
> >>> it...
> >>>
> >>> I will be happy to help, what do you think?
> >>>
> >>> Jacques
> >>>
> >>> From: "BJ Freeman" <bjf...@free-man.net>
> >>>> I looked at
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
> >>>> and
> >>>> the focus seems to being diluted and confusing.
> >>>> I suggest some be moved to
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Physical+Architecture+patterns+for+OFBiz
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> as with different pages for different tenant architectures.
> >>>>
> >>>> =========================
> >>>> BJ Freeman
> >>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
> >>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
> >>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
> >>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
> >>>>
> >>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 12/4/2010 11:45 AM:
> >>>>> thanks, no, will.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/4/2010 10:05 AM:
> >>>>>> You wrote
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> the concept I went with more self service.
> >>>>>>>>>> DB assignment in the TenantDataSource is created in a setup from
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> Base
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That's what I was talking about. Did you explain it in the wiki page?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From: "BJ Freeman" <bjf...@free-man.net>
> >>>>>>> can you clarify what you asking about, couple of key words would
> >>>>>>> help.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think the answer is Yes, but not sure what I am saying yes to.
> >>>>>>> :D
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> =========================
> >>>>>>> BJ Freeman
> >>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
> >>>>>>> <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
> >>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
> >>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/3/2010 7:53 PM:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi BJ,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Did you get a change to add your way of doing it?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> From: "Carsten Schinzer" <c.schin...@googlemail.com>
> >>>>>>>> Yup, It's runnign here and soon for some customers.
> >>>>>>>> But you're right: I am not intending to do much of dynamic,
> >>>>>>>> self-service
> >>>>>>>> stuff since my offer looks more after "managed services" including
> >>>>>>>> data
> >>>>>>>> loads, configuration help etc.
> >>>>>>>> That's why I can still afford to have "maintenance windows" and my
> >>>>>>>> customers
> >>>>>>>> are local shops who mostly don't care when they can't access their
> >>>>>>>> tools
> >>>>>>>> during weekend-eve's (and we're all one single timeezone as well).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So forgive me if I have messed up anything in the documentation,
> >>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>> maybe
> >>>>>>>> it's worth we describe both ways in the online documentation?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Carsten
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2010/10/22 BJ Freeman <bjf...@free-man.net>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> just a thought, you can use a schedule service to export entities
> >>>>>>>>> like is
> >>>>>>>>> done by webtools.
> >>>>>>>>> this gives you your data that has been added.
> >>>>>>>>> a timed service or cron job can run a svn update for your local
> >>>>>>>>> svn.
> >>>>>>>>> this gives you versoning, as well a reload abiliity, if necessary
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> So your documentation of using the entityengine.xml and Ant for
> >>>>>>>>> tenant
> >>>>>>>>> says
> >>>>>>>>> that the whole tenant systems has to be shutdown, every time you
> >>>>>>>>> add a
> >>>>>>>>> tenant. i can see that for a intranet type of website, but not
> >>>>>>>>> for and
> >>>>>>>>> internet type of website. For an internet type you would have to
> >>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>> scheduled maintainence, which mean the new client has to wait, or
> >>>>>>>>> daily
> >>>>>>>>> maintainence that means the other tenants are interrupted a lot.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I have not looked at the code, but I don't think that those loaded
> >>>>>>>>> from the
> >>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml for tenants are access by the tenant code,
> >>>>>>>>> since it
> >>>>>>>>> is not
> >>>>>>>>> loaded into the cache for the entity TenantDataSource.
> >>>>>>>>> Have you run the setup you documented?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> =========================
> >>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
> >>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
> >>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
> >>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer sent the following on 10/22/2010 6:39 AM:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hm seems like I'm a console freak then ;-)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I prefer controlled initial dataloads from a repository (to have
> >>>>>>>>>> version
> >>>>>>>>>> history). And I do a lot of catalogue management actually using
> >>>>>>>>>> XSLT and
> >>>>>>>>>> XML
> >>>>>>>>>> loads / uploads.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Well, too much operations minded from may day-job I guess.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the hint. Maybe also something that needs to be
> >>>>>>>>>> added to
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> wiki
> >>>>>>>>>> page?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Carsten
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/22 BJ Freeman<bjf...@free-man.net>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> the concept I went with more self service.
> >>>>>>>>>>> DB assignment in the TenantDataSource is created in a setup
> >>>>>>>>>>> from the
> >>>>>>>>>>> Base
> >>>>>>>>>>> (default) DB. A script is run that actually creates the DB based
> >>>>>>>>>>> on the
> >>>>>>>>>>> System setup, then added to the TenantDataSource. At this point
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> script
> >>>>>>>>>>> is not configurable and has to be modified based on how the
> >>>>>>>>>>> provider
> >>>>>>>>>>> has
> >>>>>>>>>>> their DB server set up.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The Seed data is loaded on the fly, not using Ant.
> >>>>>>>>>>> they are then switched to their DB
> >>>>>>>>>>> they are then sent to setup to build their system.
> >>>>>>>>>>> This includes providing images for logos and other parameters to
> >>>>>>>>>>> make
> >>>>>>>>>>> their
> >>>>>>>>>>> Themes, and that is loaded on the fly into their DB. this is
> >>>>>>>>>>> similar to
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> products Images but instead creates a theme for this tenant.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Based on the above the Tenant DB is stored in the
> >>>>>>>>>>> TenantDataSource
> >>>>>>>>>>> DB,
> >>>>>>>>>>> instead of the entityengine.xml, as it was originally
> >>>>>>>>>>> designed to
> >>>>>>>>>>> do. So
> >>>>>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>>> restart of ofbiz is necessary.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> the ant configuration, in my opinion should only be used to
> >>>>>>>>>>> setup
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> basic
> >>>>>>>>>>> Tenant system.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> =========================
> >>>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation<
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Specialtymarket.com<http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer sent the following on 10/22/2010 12:30 AM:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> All,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've done some extended research and have played around with
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> configuration. I have taken the liberty to add my findings in a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> section
> >>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Multitenant Configuraiton at:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please review and let me know your comments if there are any.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I guess with this we can close the issue and make life
> >>>>>>>>>>>> easier for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> next
> >>>>>>>>>>>> multitenant users.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I really don't know much about the multi tenant functionality,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> new
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't used it. But yeah you do need that tenant group
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> mapped
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource, it contains a set of tables that are needed in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> addition to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> separate tenant databases (I think).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 11:57 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, so possibly a mistake in the documents as the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> multitenant
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasources
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> would be defined in the config file placed on data/... (as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> above).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Using your aproach, I would be using the entityengine.xml to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> define any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource required?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then for data loading: How do I address a certain datasource?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had the idea to use defined readers like e.g.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <entity-data-reader name="ext-tenant1"/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and define those readers only for the respective data
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sources.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does that make sense?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the tip!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll play around a little with this idea.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just one last question: What is the dedicated
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TenantDatasources.xml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> then used for at all? To map the datasource to the respective
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tenant
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> logins?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Because irritatingly, this file also references jdbcUri,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> jdbcUsername
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jdbcPassword. But all that I would have specified in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> well.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, it looks like I'd update some documents once I found
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my way
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> through
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this. Stay tuned :)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OOTB in 10.04 the delegator definition looks like this:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <delegator name="default" entity-model-reader="main"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity-group-reader="main" entity-eca-reader="main"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributed-cache-clear-enabled="false">
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderby"/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.olap"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbyolap"/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.tenant"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbytenant"/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </delegator>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your one appears to be missing the last group-map for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.tenant
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm guessing that is the problem. I have no idea why you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and BJ
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> were
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing that entry though, it was there before 10.04
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 9:42 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Scott,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well, I digged out this old thread as the very same seemed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BJ
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well. Here's a little context:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am aiming at multitenant along with PostGreSQL database,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i.e. I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created the DB for each tenant.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed entityengine.xml to use the localpostnew
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DataSource
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delegator:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <delegator name="default" entity-model-reader="main"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity-group-reader="main" entity-eca-reader="main"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distributed-cache-clear-enabled="false">
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localpostnew"/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <group-map group-name="org.ofbiz.olap"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasource-name="localderbyolap"/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </delegator>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course localpostnew is updated with connection string
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usual
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the respective postgres drivers are placed in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\lib\jdbc
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the multitenant info, i.e. the datasource setup for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tenant's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> database, went to the xml file in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\data\TenantDataSources.xml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (the filename is different and is updated accordingly in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {ofbiz-home}\framework\entity\ofbiz-component.xml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I choose the localderby datasource, everything goes just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> databases are generated, data loaded etc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I change to the above configuration, i.e. using
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> localpostnew,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ofbiz
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throws an exception as follows
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> COMMAND ISSUED:*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D:\__eclipse\ofbiz-multitenant>java -Xmx512m
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -XX:MaxPermSize=128m
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jar
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ofbiz.jar -install -readers=seed-initial -delegator=default
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *CONSOLE OUTPUT:*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Set OFBIZ_HOME to - D:/__eclipse/ofbiz-multitenant
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (...)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,283 (main) [
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ModelReader.java:389:INFO ]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FINISHED
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOADING ENTITIES - ALL FILES; #Entities=849
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #ViewEntities=267
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #Fields=8870
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #Relationships=2925 #AutoRelationships=2157
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,392 (main) [
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GenericDelegator.java:244:INFO ]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> entity definition check...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,408 (main) [
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ModelEntityChecker.java:502:INFO ]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [initReservedWords] array length=1023
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.getEntityFieldType(GenericDelegator.java:555)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.model.ModelEntityChecker.checkEntities(ModelEntityChecker.java:101)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.<init>(GenericDelegator.java:245)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.java:230)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010-10-20 18:28:34,627 (OFBiz_Shutdown_Hook) [
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ContainerLoader.java:113:INFO ] Shutting down containers
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to understand the following:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - what is going wrong? OFBIZ seems to have issues with the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityfieldtypes for postnew. This is not observed for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tenant
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OFBIZ
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setups -- or no-one out there is using single instances on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> postgres
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release 10.04 or later.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - how can I dig deeper into the issue? Reviewing the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> classes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sporadic log statement which I do not find back on the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> console,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hence:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can I switch log levels for a component or the entire ofbiz
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instance?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint for any of these two are much appreciated.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And thanks for focussing back on the topic :-)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 Scott Gray<scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry my bad.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you explain what changes you've made to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> got
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to the point of something not working?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 6:04 PM, Carsten Schinzer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm. Again this has gone off towards debugging/logging
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> older
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread from June).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone with proposals on how to include the Tenant
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasources
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entityengine.xml as BJ indicated he had found a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workaround
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that involves this? BJ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/10/21 David E Jones<d...@me.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Scott Gray wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/10/2010, at 10:39 AM, James McGill wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:08 AM, BJ Freeman<
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bjf...@free-man.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure why it worked in derby mode but not in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> postgresql.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it hung up on the tenant entity.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but adding the tenant stuff into the entityengine.xml
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> errors.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am such a slouch I used one line of debug.loginfo to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someday I will put energy into the remote debugging.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :D
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I find remote debugging is extremely easy, using
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eclipse. If
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a way to step into minilang services -- they make remote
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> debugging
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frustrating, especially if you want to breakpoint an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ECA.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can cheat a little sometimes with that. I regularly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <log level="always" message="${someVar}"/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <transaction-rollback/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously not as good as breakpoints but you can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep refreshing the browser to continually execute the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commit the changes.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, IMO, when you don't have to worry about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile/run
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cycles
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logging better than break points and variable
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspection. It
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requires
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little more typing, but a LOT less clicking and watching and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browsing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> through data. In fact, IMO logging is faster when you don't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> have to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worry
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about compilation making things intolerably slow. It's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command-line versus a purely graphical way of doing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, to each their own... most programmers can't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> something that they aren't used and/or wasn't their idea... ;)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carsten Schinzer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waisenhausstr. 53a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 80637 München
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> 

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