I tend to agree with Gil and Michael. They did a good work to explain their opinions so I'll not add mine. I just wanted to say that the 1st tentative was done by Ruth long ago and like all the others it finally failed due to the lack of users interest. Of course another point in doing such endeavour is marketing, I believe on this part Ruth succeeded, her books having helped certainly more. Her platform was more to sold her books than offering 3rd parties solutions, but not only, Sharan collaborated with her for instance.

I also believe only a community driven version can be sustainable. Now I'm not sure the community will be able build something like Hans's, OFBiz-France's and Pierre's solutions. So we might ask ourselves how to maybe mix these experiences and UIs in one and consistent shared solution, backed by infra at the ASF (we could use the OFBIZ-VM for that).

My 2 cts

Jacques

Le 13/09/2015 17:35, Gil portenseigne a écrit :
Hi Pierre, hi all,

I agree with Micheal opinion, since there was some others initiative about this kind of proposal (thinking about OFBiz-extra and OFBiz-france association proposals), none found enough adoption into the community to get it work (yet). So each had to work on its own creating its solutions (these add to Hans' one)

I'm convinced that an official Apache referencing website is the best way to do. Apache referencing has more value (and objectivity) than any external owning referencing tool but in that case, there must be some control about the references into the "marketplace" (don't like this word, I prefer "extension library"). Indeed, extension have to be tested and validated by the community to make the marketplace an Apache one... I guess there are quality/licensing/other responsibilities for extensions released under Apache OFBiz name.

So, in my opinion, there is some work to do before creating such a marketplace under Apache OFBiz name, writing some rules about extensions validations (using incubator to validation process), requirement... And moreover. This kind of work have already been done in OFbiz-france association... If this can be levered to the Apache level, it could be great...

It seems that more and more people are interested in this kind of solution, i 
wonder if it's possible to manage such a project ? WDYT ?

I'm thinking that doing a survey about this idea to get what kind of adoption 
there is around it could be a good start.

And for examples of implementation : OFBiz-france has worked on a POC and there 
you can see list of extensions and details of one :
 http://www.nomaka.fr/ofbiz/liste.html
 http://www.nomaka.fr/ofbiz/index.html

And for info all of this is designed like in the OFBiz-france website (created 
with OFBiz CMS :o) ).
 http://www.ofbiz-fr.org

I'm curious to have many thoughts about this subject.

Best Regards,

Gil

On 13/09/2015 12:54, Michael Brohl wrote:
Hi Pierre,

I very much like the idea of a community driven marketing initiative and I appreciate your efforts on this. It could be a great opportunity for the community members to present their skills and solutions and show the users what's possible to do with OFBiz outside the standard funtionality.

As you might be aware, there was another initiative by Hans with a similar approach, see http://ofbiz.info . As far as I see, this approach never gained significant success and it seems dead for a few years now (at least the latest news is from 2012).

My theory is, and I might be totally wrong with it, that this is caused by the fact that the platform is in the hands of a single company and primarily used to promote this company itself. This seems to be the plan of your approach also, your companies and trademarks are placed prominently at the starting page, using adserver links etc..

I think this approach goes in the wrong direction and won't get enough 
acceptance and support by the community to be successful.

From my perspective, the right approach would be to develop and host such a site in the hands of the community, just like the OFBiz official website and demo sites. It should be a neutral place where every contributor and service provider has the same space to present his services and solutions. It must be assured that the platform is supported over a long time and that the community can decide which way to go with it.

I think the risk to have it in the hands of a single person or company is too 
high to spent significant time and effort in it.

This is just my thought of the current state of the initiative and maybe I 
misunderstood the approach. My apologies if that's the case.

Maybe I'm right and you think over the approach. Any thoughts of you and the 
other community members are very welcome, I'm curious what you think.

Kind regards,

Michael Brohl
ecomify GmbH
www.ecomify.de

Am 13.09.15 um 10:28 schrieb Pierre Smits:
The correct url for a sneak peek into the OFBiz Extensions Marketplace is
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
http://oem.ofbizci.net

On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi all,

While the development of the OEM is moving forward at a steady pace, I am
pleased to be able to provide a sneak peek into the preliminary website.
Please visit http://oem.ofbizci.net for a impression.

Please be advised that it is still work in progress and that the actual
theme and user experience might be subject to change.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
http://oem.ofbizci.net





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