Agreed. The reason I shared this particular PIM is that it shows a “good” UI 
for managing products especially when a lot of business users are involved.  I 
am intimately familiar with the ofbiz catalog manager - we manage a catalog of 
over 50,000 SKUs, kits, assemblies, etc. However the OFBiz UI is very very 
difficult to train new users on and it has a lot of shortcomings for managing 
large catalogs. Most of them on the UI side. 

Is anyone working on using a modern framework/toolkit for the UI?

These guys seem to be the most promising in this space and their core offering 
is 
https://vaadin.com/home <https://vaadin.com/home>
https://vaadin.com/elements <https://vaadin.com/elements> is Apache 2.0 
licensed!

Vaadin Grid, on its own, would fix a huge chunk of OFbiz UI issues since most 
of he problems revolve around interacting with tabular data and views. 
https://cdn.vaadin.com/vaadin-grid/2.0.0/demo/ 
<https://cdn.vaadin.com/vaadin-grid/2.0.0/demo/>

—P

> On Jun 30, 2017, at 4:04 AM, Rishi Solanki <rishisolan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I also spend some time on PIM and linked shared by Paul. Agree with Michael
> that PIM + more features already available in the catalog manager of OFBiz.
> Also agree on the point of complex and difficult to understand UI.
> 
> Many conversation I have seen for the responsive UI with change in the UX
> design, also I have also started similar conversation in past. Hopefully,
> we would be able to see better UI in OFBiz soon which is as per the user
> expectations.
> 
> Finally, OFBiz is able to manage more complex catalog structure then PIM.
> So if we have the better UI that would be great as it will follow the
> Universal Data Model for which OFBiz is committed for.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rishi Solanki
> Sr Manager, Enterprise Software Development
> HotWax Systems Pvt. Ltd.
> Direct: +91-9893287847
> http://www.hotwaxsystems.com
> 
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 1:42 AM, Michael Brohl <michael.br...@ecomify.de>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Paul,
>> 
>> thanks for sharing!
>> 
>> I have no experience with this software and only had a brief
>> click-through, so my opinion might be inaccurate: I think that OFBiz
>> already has most of these features, and much more, in the catalog manager.
>> 
>> The only drawback is the UI, which is very complex and not so clearly
>> arranged. But it is easy to slim down the catalog manager and hide all the
>> stuff you don't need or rearrange the screens/forms to build a better UI.
>> Plus, you have full access and can change any process as you like.
>> 
>> For example, we did some projects to build specialized catalog management
>> systems for spare parts, both frontend and backend on top of the strong
>> data model and using a lot of existing services (see [1], [2]).
>> 
>> I'm pretty sure that it is worth to evaluate the OFBiz catalog manager if
>> you are looking or a good and integrated PIM solution.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Michael Brohl
>> ecomify GmbH
>> www.ecomify.de
>> 
>> [1] https://www.gigant-parts.com/control/category/~pcategory=101
>> 08/~category_id=10144
>> 
>> [2] https://www.krone-trailerparts.com/brems-und-luftanlage/modulatoren
>> 
>> 
>> Am 13.06.17 um 18:18 schrieb Paul Mandeltort:
>> 
>> Hey guys, anyone played with Akeneo at all for PIM (Product Information
>>> Management)?
>>> 
>>> http://demo.akeneo.com/ <http://demo.akeneo.com/> (admin/admin)
>>> 
>>> Looks like it would complement OFBiz very nicely for managing large
>>> complex catalogs. Wanted to see if anyone had any experience here with it
>>> or had recommendations for similar tools. It’s open-source, but
>>> unfortunately it’s a PHP stack.
>>> 
>>> —P
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 

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