Once more rule:
If the SystemProperty table has a systemPropertyID called "ConfigFile" and "systemPropertyValue" path exists, and the timestamp of the file matches last_updated_stamp in the DB, the DB has precedence. No sync needed. On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 9:52 AM, Mike <mz4whee...@gmail.com> wrote: > The way it is implemented now violates the "do no harm" principle, which > includes years of documentation (and books) that supports the traditional > use of java property files. The user has said that he has tried off/on for > 6 months to get email notifications to work. In fact, I didn't even know > about this 16.x behavior. Here is a suggestion: > > Assumes seeded via CommonSystemPropertyData.xml... Or other, similar > XXX_propertyData.xml files... > > If the SystemProperty table has a systemPropertyID called "ConfigFile" and > "systemPropertyValue" path exists, then the property file has precedence, > and always does a 1-way sync to the DB. > > If the SystemProperty table does not have "ConfigFile" key, then do > nothing. The DB has precedence. > > If the SystemProperty table has a "ConfigFile" entry, and > "systemPropertyValue" > path does NOT exist, the system will create it once, and from that point > forward the property file is referenced for future loads. > > Example: > > <entity-engine-xml> > <SystemProperty systemResourceId="general" > systemPropertyId="ConfigFile" systemPropertyValue=" > framework/common/config/general.properties" description="config file used > for general"/> > > By default (seed), the property file should exist and have precedence. > If you are doing advanced stuff like multi-tenant, then you need to be more > vigilant and set "ConfigFile" and it's path more carefully in the > SystemProperty table. > > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:49 PM, Jacques Le Roux < > jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: > >> This could be a solution for this specific problem if we get a >> consensus. OFBIZ-7754 is related >> >> To summarize: the problem is, because of OFBIZ-7112, if you use the same >> seeds than in 13.07 you will get nothing which can even be more confusing. >> That's why we have values in SystemProperty, this was done with r1748560. >> >> While at it, and about OFBIZ-7754 what about the other SystemProperty in >> other seed or seed-initial data files. >> seed-initial: WorkEffortSeedInitialData CatalogSystemPropertyData >> OrderSystemPropertyData BiSystemPropertyData ProjectMgrSystemPropertyData >> seed: CommonSystemPropertyData EcommerceSystemPropertyData >> >> I note that we have no other solutions yet than EntityUtilProperties to >> handle properties in multi-tenants. >> There is another related topic: we need to be sure to keep the >> SystemProperty and the properties in file synchronised as shown in >> OFBIZ-9924 >> I wonder if a solution could not be to remove any property which has a >> related SystemProperty. What do you think about that? >> >> So we need to get a consensus, or even a vote if necessary, to definitely >> resolve these issues. >> >> For that I exceptionally cross post this discussion in dev ML and it >> should be continued there. >> >> Thanks >> >> Jacques >> >> >> Le 15/02/2018 à 18:22, Mike a écrit : >> >>> but to comment them out of the ofbiz-component.xml. >>>> >>> +1 >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:42 AM, Michael Brohl <michael.br...@ecomify.de >>> > >>> wrote: >>> >>> I agree that the default population of SystemProperty with configuration >>>> values is confusing, especially for the mail configuration >>>> >>>> I'd suggest to not remove the load data but to comment them out of the >>>> ofbiz-component.xml. They can stay there as an example but would not be >>>> loaded by default. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 15.02.18 um 17:07 schrieb Mike: >>>> >>>> Jacques: I understand the value of the feature. What I'm referring >>>> to is >>>> >>>>> somebody, in 16.x, hard-coded the above values in "seed", which caused >>>>> the >>>>> problem for this user. >>>>> >>>>> This is an advanced feature, and caused a lot of confusion. I'd >>>>> recommend >>>>> that the 16.x CommonSystemPropertyData.xml be edited to remove all >>>>> "systemPropertyValue=" >>>>> entries. >>>>> >>>>> 13.07: ./framework/common/data/CommonSystemPropertyData.xml >>>>> >>>>> Here is the latest version of 13.07, which does not hard-code these >>>>> values. >>>>> None of the 13.07 seed data have "systemPropertyValue=" set. >>>>> >>>>> systemPropertyId="ORGANIZATION_PARTY >>>>> systemPropertyId="VISUAL_THEME" >>>>> systemPropertyId="currency.uom.id.default" >>>>> systemPropertyId="country.geo.id.default" >>>>> systemPropertyId="partner.trackingCodeId.default" >>>>> systemPropertyId="defaultFromEmailAddress" >>>>> systemPropertyId="mail.notifications.enabled" >>>>> systemPropertyId="mail.smtp.relay.host" >>>>> systemPropertyId="mail.smtp.auth.user" >>>>> systemPropertyId="mail.smtp.auth.password" >>>>> systemPropertyId="mail.smtp.port" >>>>> systemPropertyId="mail.smtp.starttls.enable" >>>>> systemPropertyId="mail.smtp.socketFactory.port" >>>>> systemPropertyId="mail.smtp.socketFactory.class" >>>>> systemPropertyId="mail.smtp.socketFactory.fallback" >>>>> systemPropertyId="mail.smtp.sendpartial" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 1:15 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Mike, thanks for asking >>>>> >>>>>> This controversial feature has been initially discussed with >>>>>> http://markmail.org/message/be3ts56b5w22k6pz >>>>>> >>>>>> We currently have some related pending Jira about that (sorry maybe a >>>>>> bit >>>>>> too much, also a way to remind/check myself before discussing again in >>>>>> dev >>>>>> ML) >>>>>> >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7112 >>>>>> >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7754 >>>>>> >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6166 >>>>>> >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6164 >>>>>> >>>>>> http://markmail.org/message/i4rubhbo7wlm4wts >>>>>> >>>>>> https://s.apache.org/oTA6 >>>>>> >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6712 >>>>>> >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6205 >>>>>> >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-6210 >>>>>> >>>>>> Because this is now entrenched in OFBiz for many years, and I guess >>>>>> used >>>>>> by many customs projects, it will maybe hard to get back. >>>>>> But then we need a better documentation. Beginning as simply as I >>>>>> proposed >>>>>> below. And we need to agree and fix the pending issues. >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 14/02/2018 à 16:49, Mike a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques: Why does ofbiz 16.x set real properties >>>>>> >>>>>>> in: ./framework/common/data/CommonSystemPropertyData.xml? This is >>>>>>> part >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> "seed"... It hard-codes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> systemPropertyId="ORGANIZATION_PARTY" systemPropertyValue="Company" >>>>>>> systemPropertyId="VISUAL_THEME" systemPropertyValue="FLAT_GREY" >>>>>>> systemPropertyId="currency.uom.id.default" systemPropertyValue="USD" >>>>>>> systemPropertyId="country.geo.id.default" systemPropertyValue="USA" >>>>>>> systemPropertyId="defaultFromEmailAddress" systemPropertyValue=" >>>>>>> ofbizt...@example.com" >>>>>>> systemPropertyId="mail.notifications.enabled" >>>>>>> systemPropertyValue="N" >>>>>>> systemPropertyId="mail.smtp.port" systemPropertyValue="465" >>>>>>> systemPropertyId="mail.smtp.starttls.enable" >>>>>>> systemPropertyValue="true" >>>>>>> systemPropertyId="mail.smtp.socketFactory.port" >>>>>>> systemPropertyValue="465" >>>>>>> systemPropertyId="mail.smtp.socketFactory.class" >>>>>>> systemPropertyValue="javax.net.ssl.SSLSocketFactory" >>>>>>> systemPropertyId="mail.smtp.socketFactory.fallback" >>>>>>> systemPropertyValue="false" >>>>>>> systemPropertyId="mail.smtp.sendpartial" systemPropertyValue="true" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Which seems to override general.properties. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:55 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>>>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Pierre! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is indeed something which is tricky for new users and even >>>>>>>> easily >>>>>>>> forgettable in general. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Before I post about SystemProperty and EntityUtilProperties on dev >>>>>>>> ML, >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> want to suggest here that we put a comment at the top of each >>>>>>>> properties >>>>>>>> file as a reminder that the properties there could be overridden in >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> SystemProperty >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le 12/02/2018 à 21:32, pierre.gaudin a écrit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, have a look at SystemProperty entity for key >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> mail.notifications.enabled >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pierre >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12/02/2018 19:53, Mike wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For TLS (mail.smtp.starttls.enable=true ), use port 587 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 4:37 AM, Дмитрий Цыганок <d...@kapitanweb.ru >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've deployed Ofbiz several times, but each time with the right >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> settings, >>>>>>>>>>> email notifications are not sent. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here are my settings from /var/www/ofbiz/framework/commo >>>>>>>>>>> n/config/general. >>>>>>>>>>> properties: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> unique.instanceId=ofbiz1 >>>>>>>>>>> currency.uom.id.default=USD >>>>>>>>>>> ORGANIZATION_PARTY=Company >>>>>>>>>>> VISUAL_THEME=RAINBOWSTONE_SAPHIR >>>>>>>>>>> currency.decimal.format=#,##0.00 >>>>>>>>>>> currency.rounding.default=10 >>>>>>>>>>> currency.scale.enabled=N >>>>>>>>>>> locale.properties.fallback=en >>>>>>>>>>> #locales.available=ar,de,en,es,fr,hi,it,nl,pt,ro,ru,th,zh >>>>>>>>>>> #timeZones.available=US/Eastern,US/Central,US/ >>>>>>>>>>> Mountain,US/Pacific,US/Alaska,US/Hawaii >>>>>>>>>>> country.geo.id.default=USA >>>>>>>>>>> partner.trackingCodeId.default= >>>>>>>>>>> usps.address.match=(^.*?p[\\. ]*o[\\. >>>>>>>>>>> ]*box.*$)|(^.*?post.*?office.* >>>>>>>>>>> ?box.*$)|((^|(^.*? >>>>>>>>>>> ))r[\\. ]*r[\\. ]*(( +)|([0-9#]+)).*$)|(^.*?rural.*?route.*$) >>>>>>>>>>> defaultFromEmailAddress=dmtsyga...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> mail.notifications.enabled=Y >>>>>>>>>>> mail.notifications.redirectTo=d...@kapitanweb.ru >>>>>>>>>>> mail.smtp.relay.host=smtp.gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> mail.smtp.auth.user=dmtsyga...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> mail.smtp.auth.password=******* >>>>>>>>>>> mail.smtp.port=465 >>>>>>>>>>> mail.smtp.starttls.enable=true >>>>>>>>>>> mail.smtp.socketFactory.port=465 >>>>>>>>>>> mail.smtp.socketFactory.class=javax.net.ssl.SSLSocketFactory >>>>>>>>>>> mail.smtp.socketFactory.fallback=false >>>>>>>>>>> mail.address.caseInsensitive=N >>>>>>>>>>> mail.debug.on=N >>>>>>>>>>> mail.smtp.sendpartial=true >>>>>>>>>>> http.upload.max.sizethreshold=10240 >>>>>>>>>>> http.upload.tmprepository=runtime/tmp >>>>>>>>>>> http.upload.max.size=-1 >>>>>>>>>>> mail.spam.name=X-Spam-Flag >>>>>>>>>>> mail.spam.value=YES >>>>>>>>>>> Ofbiz always issues this error in the logs and the mail is not >>>>>>>>>>> sent: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> " 2018-01-17 22:21:19,562 |OFBiz-JobQueue-1 |EmailServices >>>>>>>>>>> |I| Mail notifications disabled in general.properties; >>>>>>>>>>> mail >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> subject [test] not sent to addressee [ d...@kapitanweb.ru " >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I also tried different mail accounts, but the result is always >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> same. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What could be the reason? Please help me to solve this problem. >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much in advance! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Dmitriy >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >> >