Could you please tell when will be the next 4.0.9 release?
I think you should let it ripen about two more weeks. This will polish
possible issues and i'll have time toprepare the installation
tutorials.
.......................

El vie, 22-03-2019 a las 22:32 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> Hello All,
> It seems all major issues for 5.0.x were fixed
> Any objections to release 5.0.0-M1? 
> 
> M1 == Milestone 1, i.e. this version worth wider testing but might be
> not production ready
> 
> WDYT?
> 
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 22:54, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hmm,
> > 
> > It seems to be the same issue with Audio in Safari +
> > 
> > Screen-sharing/Recording is not working
> > 
> > I'll to deal with Audio (will ask you to test)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > And will try to check screen-sharing using "real" Mac
> > 
> > most probably next week
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Please file JIRA regarding this :)
> > 
> > Thanks in advance!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 22:44, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Ok, now it is installed kurento on Ubuntu 18.04.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > # Server: OM 5.0.0 - Ubuntu 18.04
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > # Client: Safari - Firefox in Mojave
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Please take a look the videos:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > OM 5.0.0 Firefox recording in room.mov
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > OM 5.0.0 Safari recording in room.mov
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > OM 5.0.0 kurento Firefox and Safari.mov
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > -----------------------------
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > El mié, 06-03-2019 a las 21:22 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Please do not hesitate to report any issues
> > 
> > > It is really hard to develop OM5 without user feedback :)
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 19:53, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.c
> > om> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > OK,
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > OM 5.0.0 is on https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
> > 
> > > I would like to get feedback
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > complex multiuser scenarious are welcome :)
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 18:55, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.c
> > om> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Hello James,
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > what version are you running? and what are the issues?
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Is it nightly build from our build server? or are you building
> > from sources?
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 18:53, james judge <jjudge.developer83@gmai
> > l.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > I know I am new to the group,. but I welcome 5.0.0 and will be
> > happy to test. I've got an aws ubuntu 16 instance running and will
> > happily provide feedback. I have had some issues with the current
> > version doing desktop sharing and can't wait to see it possibly
> > working.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Thank you,
> > 
> > > James Judge
> > 
> > > www.JamesJudge.info
> > 
> > > (570) 230-4933
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:13 PM Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail
> > .com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Hello All,
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > 4.0.8 VOTE is on the way
> > 
> > > So it's time for this DISCUSSION :)
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > I was able to implement some missing features (recording+screen-
> > sharing)
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > And I believe now it's time to deploy current 5.0.0 version to
> > 
> > > demo-next and perform couple of rounds of "community testing"
> > 
> > > WDYT?
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 at 17:36, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.
> > com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Good to know it is not OM issue :)
> > 
> > > You can use postgres as DB, should work out of the box :)
> > 
> > > On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 at 16:12, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Ok Maxim. 've follow your link and run:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > mysql_tzinfo_to_sql /usr/share/zoneinfo | mysql -u root -p mysql
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > That have changed something in my Debian 9 that affect also to my
> > 
> > > Windows 10 (two hours less) but could'nt install OM 5 on Debian
> > 9.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > So, in Debian 9 was 10 hours AM, and in Windows was 8 hours AM.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Today, in Debian 9, 've changed tzdata from Europe/Madrid to
> > Atlantic/Azores
> > 
> > > (two hours less). After this tryied install OM 5 and...WINNER!
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > The problem it was relationed with tzdata, as you said.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Thank you.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Alvaro
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > .............................................................
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > El vie, 19-10-2018 a las 17:01 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Check this article: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49518683/
> > the-server-time-zone-value-cest-is-unrecognized
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 17:00, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.
> > com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > It is weird you have both: Europe/Madrid (CEST, +0200)
> > 
> > > I'll try to Google this error, should be something well-known
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 16:55, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > ...i will try in Fedora 28.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Here is it you ask:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > root@cor:/home/guadal# timedatectl
> > 
> > >       Local time: vie 2018-10-19 11:37:19 CEST
> > 
> > >   Universal time: vie 2018-10-19 09:37:19 UTC
> > 
> > >         RTC time: vie 2018-10-19 11:37:19
> > 
> > >        Time zone: Europe/Madrid (CEST, +0200)
> > 
> > >  Network time on: yes
> > 
> > > NTP synchronized: no
> > 
> > >  RTC in local TZ: yes
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Warning: The system is configured to read the RTC time in the
> > local time zone.
> > 
> > >          This mode can not be fully supported. It will create
> > various problems
> > 
> > >          with time zone changes and daylight saving time
> > adjustments. The RTC
> > 
> > >          time is never updated, it relies on external facilities
> > to maintain it.
> > 
> > >          If at all possible, use RTC in UTC by calling
> > 
> > >          'timedatectl set-local-rtc 0'.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > ...then i run: timedatectl set-local-rtc 0
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > ...and after again:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > root@cor:/home/guadal# timedatectl
> > 
> > >       Local time: vie 2018-10-19 11:39:11 CEST
> > 
> > >   Universal time: vie 2018-10-19 09:39:11 UTC
> > 
> > >         RTC time: vie 2018-10-19 09:39:11
> > 
> > >        Time zone: Europe/Madrid (CEST, +0200)
> > 
> > >  Network time on: yes
> > 
> > > NTP synchronized: no
> > 
> > >  RTC in local TZ: no
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > ................................................................
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > El vie, 19-10-2018 a las 16:30 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Just have checked with
> > 
> > > mysqld  Ver 5.7.23-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 for Linux on x86_64
> > ((Ubuntu))
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Everything works as expected
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Maybe there are some more TZ settings in MariaDB?
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > What is the output of
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > `timedatectl`
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 16:18, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > ...in: /etc/timezone ...is Europe/Madrid, but i've reconfigured
> > tzdata
> > 
> > > with Europe/Madrid, but the resultat is the same.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > With OM 4.0.7 is no problem installation.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > ........................................
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > El vie, 19-10-2018 a las 15:47 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > The error is "The server time zone value 'CEST' is unrecognized
> > or represents more than one time zone. You must configure either
> > the server or JDBC driver (via the serverTimezone configuration
> > property) to use a more specifc time zone value if you want to
> > utilize time zone support."
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > MySql for some reason don't like if time zone is set as CEST, can
> > you run
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > `dpkg-reconfigure tzdata`
> > 
> > > and set something like 'Europe/Madrid' as time zone?
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 15:43, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Please take a look attached files.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > ..........................
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > El vie, 19-10-2018 a las 15:34 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Will try to reproduce
> > 
> > > Anything useful in the logs?
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 15:32, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > OM 5 - Snapshot 2605
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > When try install it say: Could not create connection to
> > 
> > > database.... (attached capture).
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Debian 9, mysql-connector-java-8.0.12.jar
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Alvaro
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > ..................................
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > El vie, 19-10-2018 a las 09:04 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Correction: OM5 will work with MySql driver 5.x but you need to
> > change driver class in mysql_persistense.xml to achieve this
> > 
> > > Driver class name has been changed in 8.x and was producing
> > warning in the logs, this is why I have changed it
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 09:01, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.
> > com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Hello Alvaro,
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > OM5 requires latest MySql driver 8.0.12 [1]
> > 
> > > OM4 can use both 5.x and 8.x
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > [1] https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/mysql/mysql-connector-java
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 at 23:38, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Hello Maxim,
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > I've got the attached capture trying install OM 5 (first Snapshot
> > 
> > > of today 18-10-2018).
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > With mysql-connector-java-5.1.46.jar and
> > 
> > > mysql-connector-java-5.1.47.jar
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Alvaro
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > ....................................
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > El vie, 12-10-2018 a las 09:48 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Hello All,
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > some news regarding WebRTC
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Settings dialog is made more user friendly: less "silent fails",
> > less JS errors
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > BUT it seems some RTC features are not working if you have MS
> > Edge and Win 10 NOT pro or Enterprise [1]
> > 
> > > I have 2 identical VMs
> > 
> > > 1) with Win 10 Pro
> > 
> > > 2) with Win 10 Pro.N
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > I have issues with #2 and everything works as expected on #1
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Additionally there is an issue with Edge browser: [2]
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Would appreciate if you can test latest version on "demo-apache"
> > [3]
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > [1] https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platform
> > /issues/17357055/#comment-5
> > 
> > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1956
> > 
> > > [3] https://demo-openmeetings.apache.org/openmeetings
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 21:53, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.c
> > om> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Document conversion is actually broken on this demo server
> > 
> > > This seems to be caused by server configuration
> > 
> > > No sure yet what is wrong
> > 
> > > Will try to fix it in a week or two, have no idea what can be
> > wrong :(
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 21:46, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.c
> > om> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > I'm going to perform additional code-review and will check this
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > This is only initial version :)
> > 
> > > Hopefully will be improved :))
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 21:39, Stefan Kühl <ste...@quatrekuehl.eu>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Checked it again with Win10 und FF, but with a USB Headset and it
> > works well! (I just recognize that my voice was also in my
> > headphones?!)
> > 
> > > Retry it with the non USB Headset und it won't work. I mentioned
> > that FF and Chrome didn't ask for permission to use the the
> > microphone of the non-USB Headset. Maybe, this a the point we
> > should draw our attention too?
> > 
> > > Stefan
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Am 09.10.2018 15:49, schrieb Daniel Ascher:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > It is now working properly in Edge.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:04 AM Stefan Kühl <ste...@quatrekuehl.eu
> > > wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Nothing changes. Got another test on an virtual Win10 and fresh
> > firefox installtion. Same behaviour.
> > 
> > > Stefan
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Am 09.10.2018 10:27, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> > 
> > > It is weird: you got "MS Edge" errors on Chrome+FF :((
> > 
> > > I have fixed some "Edge" errors, so demo should behave better
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > I'll fix some more errors with settings dialog later ...
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Thanks for the reports
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 12:32, Stefan Kühl <ste...@quatrekuehl.eu>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > The screenshot was taken in firefox 62.0.3 and ubuntu 18.04.,
> > same behaviour in chrome 69.0.329 and ubuntu 18.04.
> > 
> > > Also tried with root and sudo to avoid restrictions.
> > 
> > > Stefan
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Am 09.10.2018 07:23, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> > 
> > > What OS/Browser are you using?
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 12:09, Stefan Kühl <ste...@quatrekuehl.eu>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > 
> > > tried the OM 5 Demo with plugged in headset. But no chance to
> > choose it. The "Choose microphone" option remains in "Loading data,
> > please wait" and everytime i try to reload, the red error message
> > appears. Headset is not USB but chinch.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Stefan
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Am 09.10.2018 06:27, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> > 
> > > Actually it is not one page it is OM site being re-build with
> > every nightly build ...
> > 
> > > Site contents should be ready to 5.0 release, so all pages need
> > to checked/updated
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > news, changelog and announces will be updated during release
> > process, so it displays 4.0.5 right now :)
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 23:53, Daniel Ascher <aplusadmin@aplustutor
> > ing.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > This page: https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/OpenMeetings/j
> > ob/openmeetings/site/openmeetings-server/index.html
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > is set up for version 4.0.5, correct? Is that what you want me to
> > check for errors/updates? Or do you want something mentioning
> > version 5.0?
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Thanks. Dan
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:51 PM Daniel Ascher <aplusadmin@aplustu
> > toring.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > I just checked in Edge but there is a problem.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:21 PM Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmai
> > l.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > document upload seems to be jodConverter and/or server issue,
> > hopelly will be able to address
> > 
> > > Was 5.0.0 working under Edge? Any issues?
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Additional task might be to check site of 5.0 version: https://bu
> > ilds.apache.org/view/M-
> > R/view/OpenMeetings/job/openmeetings/site/openmeetings-
> > server/index.html
> > 
> > > and report any outdated/missing/unclear page ....
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 23:03, Daniel Ascher <aplusadmin@aplustutor
> > ing.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > It's really great that you got WebRTC going!! I'm sure it's been
> > a lot of hard work.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > I tried uploading a document but it didn't work. I assume that
> > the document conversion stuff isn't configured yet so that is why I
> > asked what needs to be tested.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > I'll try using it in Edge and do some of the testing you
> > mentioned. Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Dan
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:09 PM Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail
> > .com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Hello Daniel,
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > yes, this is WebRTC :)
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Nettesing and Video setup seems to work as expected and most
> > probably will not be changed too much
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Room Audio/Video is in "early-alpha" stage and I would like to
> > know: how good is it so far?
> > 
> > > Is on/off audio/video being correctly handled? Same regarding
> > add/remove rights
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > This version should not work in IE11, Does in work in
> > Safari/Edge?
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 01:48, Daniel Ascher <aplusadmin@aplustutor
> > ing.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Hi Maxim. I see that the webcam and audio are working. Is this
> > WebRTC? What would you like us to check for when we are trying it
> > out?
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Thanks. Dan
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 11:07 AM Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmai
> > l.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > OK,
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > current (I would say alpha version) is available on our demo
> > server: https://demo-openmeetings.apache.org/openmeetings
> > 
> > > Something still not implemented, and there are definitely some
> > issues, but this version is "playable"
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > It would be great to get some early feedback ...
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 18:35, K, Amit (MIND) <Amit.K@mind-infotech
> > .com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Best of luck... J
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
> > 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 4:44 PM
> > 
> > > To: Openmeetings user-list <user@openmeetings.apache.org>
> > 
> > > Subject: Re: OM 5
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Hello Aaron,
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > I'm currently trying to set up demo with somehow working version
> > of 5.0
> > 
> > > Will let you know if it will be successful :)
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 23:35, <aaron.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > How close do you think it is for going into live testing with
> > OM5?  Reason I ask is with the most recent update to Chrome, even
> > with a valid cert, and even if you told the website to allow flash,
> > users are having to click allow flash in the audio/video box.  And
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