this is known issue and I believe it shouldn't arise
can you reload the page?
Is it stable reproducible?

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 15:22, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ...a red message:
>
> OperationError: Expects at least 4 fields.
>
>
>
>
> .........................
>
> El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 10:12 +0200, Alvaro escribió:
> > ...Safari 11.1.2 on "El Capitan OS".
> >
> > ..................
> >
> > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 14:57 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> > > this is definitely not the result I'm seeing :(((I do have green
> > > bar in Safari 11 ....
> > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 14:49, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > ...Safari 11.1.2 in Demo-next  Private Room,
> > > >
> > > > there is not green bar mic sound.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > .............
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 09:20 +0200, Alvaro escribió:
> > > >
> > > > > ...in:
> > > >
> > > > > https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/
> > > >
> > > > > ...Private Room, Safari 13.1.1 there is not green barof mic
> > > > sound.
> > > >
> > > > > Do you need any other test?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > ............
> > > >
> > > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 14:05 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik
> > > > escribió:
> > > >
> > > > > > And demo-next doesn't work?
> > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 14:04, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > Hello Maxim, Sebastian,  in:
> > > >
> > > > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/a
> > > > udio/
> > > >
> > > > > > > ...Safari 13.1.1 works right mic sound.
> > > >
> > > > > > > Am goeing to test the others versions and will tell you.
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > ...............
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:30 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik
> > > > escribió:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > Can someone else with Safari 11-12-13 test audio?
> > > >
> > > > > > > > Maybe all versions of Safari requires some additional
> > > > options
> > > >
> > > > > > > > to
> > > >
> > > > > > > > be turned
> > > >
> > > > > > > > ON ?
> > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:19, Stefan Kühl
> > > >
> > > > > > > > <ste...@quatrekuehl.eu>
> > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Maybe we can figure out if the settings for safari13
> > > > can help
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > and this
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > could be solved fast. Otherwise I prefer to release and
> > > > set
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Safari13
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > solution for thwe next release to have enough time for
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > investigation.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Greetz
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Stefan
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Am 27.07.2020 08:14, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable sound
> > > > at
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Safari 13
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > And this might give as some insight of what can be
> > > > improved
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > (not sure if generic test application is useful anyhow)
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > @All,
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+
> > > > trying to
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > investigate
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Safari 11 ?
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, seba.wag...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > <seba.wagne
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > r...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > No but the generic test application at
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getusermed
> > > > ia/aud
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > io
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > /
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >  seems to work better now after restarting my Mac.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > However the OpenMeetings application setup application
> > > > seems
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > not do
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > much when recording the stream.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > And there is no level-meter when audio/mic is enabled.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > And there is no sound output on a 2nd device when using
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Safari13 and
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > enabling mic on the Safari device. Chrome however works
> > > > fine.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Seb
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-
> > > > af6f-
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > 490
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > 33f10d60a/public_url>
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-
> > > > 9faf-
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > 099
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > 038475e36/public_url>
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45, Maxim Solodovnik
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > <solomax666@gmai
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > l.com>
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > While testing with Safari 11 I noticed some "WebRTC"
> > > > submenu
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > in
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Develop"
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > menu
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Do you have it on Safari 13?
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Can you "play" with options?
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:43, seba.wag...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > <seba.wagne
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > r...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > I think in Safari 11 they introduced support for
> > > > audio/video:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#Sa
> > > > fari_1
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >    - Includes updated media controls for HTML5 video
> > > > and
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > audio
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >    - Adds support for new web technologies such as
> > > > WebRTC
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC>, Media
> > > > Capture API,
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Resource
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >    Timing API, WebAssembly
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebAs
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > sembly>,
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >    variable fonts, CSS strokes and more.[63]
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_histor
> > > > y#cite
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > _n
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > ote-63>
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > But then in Safari 13 there are quite a lot of changes
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-releas
> > > > e-
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > notes/
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > safari-13-release-notes
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hm in terms of releasing, I am not sure, would be good
> > > > to get
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > few more
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > users to confirm on Safari13.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > If the issue is really a generic Safari13 limitation or
> > > > not.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Seb
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > <
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-a
> > > > f6f-
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > 4903
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > 3f10d60a/public_url
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > <
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9
> > > > faf-
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > 0990
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > 38475e36/public_url
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:38, Maxim Solodovnik
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > <solomax666@gmai
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > l.com>
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Well,
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'll try to find newer iMac, but have no idea where
> > > > ATM
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > :(((
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I will be on vacation 1-15 August without any access
> > > > to
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > internet (maybe
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > occasional access to mobile internet)
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I thought to release before my vacation
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Do you think it is possible?
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:35, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm using Safari 13 and it doesn't work.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > And I think I'm not alone.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Seb
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > <
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-a
> > > > f6f-
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > 4903
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > 3f10d60a/public_url
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > <
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9
> > > > faf-
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > 0990
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > 38475e36/public_url
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:34, Maxim Solodovnik
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > <solomax666@
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Sebastian, All,
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I just was able to get real iMac to test
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It has Safari 11 (and I have no rights to update
> > > > it)
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Everything works as expected
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I have tested demo-next as-is
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > My steps were
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1) on Safari enter restricted room
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2) start Audio only broadcasting
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Result: green sound bar is jumping
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 3) enter same room Ubuntu 20.04+Chromium latest
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Result: I can hear the audio in the room
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I will have access to the iMac for couple more
> > > > hours,
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > please let me
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > know
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > if I should do any additional tests
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 04:32, seba.wagner@gmail.c
> > > > om
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > <seba
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > .wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > As reported in a few email discussions: Safari
> > > > on iOS
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > does not capture
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > audio.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > We could establish that playback is fine. But
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > capturing
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > audio does not
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > work.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > There are currently two tickets we have:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  - OPENMEETINGS-2277 - Fixing the capture of
> > > > audio on
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS in
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > conference room (some other subject but we
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > established
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that that's the
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > root
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > cause)
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  - OPENMEETINGS-2412 - Fixing the capture of
> > > > audio on
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS in
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > setup
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > testing tool
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > There are various discussions where some think
> > > > some
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > code change on our
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > end
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > would fix it.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure about that.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > There seems to be even the official webRTC
> > > > samples
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > broken for
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > See for example webRTC samples section:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/ge
> > > > tuserm
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ed
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ia/audio/
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > => Works in Chrome/iOS
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > => Fails in Safari/iOS
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I also started a discussion at discuss-webRTC :
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/discuss-
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > webrtc/c/XBeiy3GpVLg/m/kbsC
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > U25IBgAJ
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > In my opinion: Fixing this issue inside
> > > > OpenMeetings
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > rather
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > complex.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > As
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a lot of other code. So I would like
> > > > to see
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > simple minimal
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > code
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > example to start with. If that works fine, I'm
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > convinced we can fix it
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenMeetings too!
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Are there other opinions or ideas on how to
> > > > approach
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > this ?
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is no reply or not an answer on
> > > > discuss-
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > webRTC
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I would also
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > like
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to interview people at Kurento mailing lists.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-a
> > > > f6f-
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > 4903
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > 3f10d60a/public_url
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9
> > > > faf-
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > 0990
> > > >
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Best regards,
Maxim

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