Could you please use numeric version instead of code name? (sierra, high sierra, el capitan)
The issue can be hard to reproduce (require long list of specific steps, or some other apps running in parallel) Or can be easy to reproduce (reload the page and you will see) It also can be reproducible let's say every 10th reload (not very stable) Or on every reload (very stable) or something in the middle :)) On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 15:52, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: > ...it is reloaded the page, El Capitan Safari 11.1.2, in > different rooms, No green bar, yes red message in any > room. > > Is it stable reproducible? > > > ...i don't understand what you mean... > > > > ....................... > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 15:23 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: > > this is known issue and I believe it shouldn't arise > can you reload the page? > Is it stable reproducible? > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 15:22, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ...a red message: > > OperationError: Expects at least 4 fields. > > > > > ......................... > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 10:12 +0200, Alvaro escribió: > > ...Safari 11.1.2 on "El Capitan OS". > > > > .................. > > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 14:57 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: > > > this is definitely not the result I'm seeing :(((I do have green > > > bar in Safari 11 .... > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 14:49, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > ...Safari 11.1.2 in Demo-next Private Room, > > > > > > > > there is not green bar mic sound. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ............. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 09:20 +0200, Alvaro escribió: > > > > > > > > > ...in: > > > > > > > > > https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/ > > > > > > > > > ...Private Room, Safari 13.1.1 there is not green barof mic > > > > sound. > > > > > > > > > Do you need any other test? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ............ > > > > > > > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 14:05 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > And demo-next doesn't work? > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 14:04, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Maxim, Sebastian, in: > > > > > > > > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/a > > > > udio/ > > > > > > > > > > > ...Safari 13.1.1 works right mic sound. > > > > > > > > > > > Am goeing to test the others versions and will tell you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ............... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:30 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can someone else with Safari 11-12-13 test audio? > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe all versions of Safari requires some additional > > > > options > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > be turned > > > > > > > > > > > > ON ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:19, Stefan Kühl > > > > > > > > > > > > <ste...@quatrekuehl.eu> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe we can figure out if the settings for safari13 > > > > can help > > > > > > > > > > > > > and this > > > > > > > > > > > > > could be solved fast. Otherwise I prefer to release and > > > > set > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari13 > > > > > > > > > > > > > solution for thwe next release to have enough time for > > > > > > > > > > > > > investigation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 27.07.2020 08:14, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable sound > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari 13 > > > > > > > > > > > > > And this might give as some insight of what can be > > > > improved > > > > > > > > > > > > > (not sure if generic test application is useful anyhow) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+ > > > > trying to > > > > > > > > > > > > > investigate > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari 11 ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, seba.wag...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > <seba.wagne > > > > > > > > > > > > > r...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No but the generic test application at > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getusermed > > > > ia/aud > > > > > > > > > > > > > io > > > > > > > > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems to work better now after restarting my Mac. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However the OpenMeetings application setup application > > > > seems > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > not do > > > > > > > > > > > > > much when recording the stream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > And there is no level-meter when audio/mic is enabled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > And there is no sound output on a 2nd device when using > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari13 and > > > > > > > > > > > > > enabling mic on the Safari device. Chrome however works > > > > fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968- > > > > af6f- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 490 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 33f10d60a/public_url> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02- > > > > 9faf- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 099 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 038475e36/public_url> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45, Maxim Solodovnik > > > > > > > > > > > > > <solomax666@gmai > > > > > > > > > > > > > l.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While testing with Safari 11 I noticed some "WebRTC" > > > > submenu > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Develop" > > > > > > > > > > > > > menu > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you have it on Safari 13? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you "play" with options? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:43, seba.wag...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > <seba.wagne > > > > > > > > > > > > > r...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think in Safari 11 they introduced support for > > > > audio/video: > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#Sa > > > > fari_1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Includes updated media controls for HTML5 video > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > audio > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Adds support for new web technologies such as > > > > WebRTC > > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC>, Media > > > > Capture API, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Resource > > > > > > > > > > > > > Timing API, WebAssembly > > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebAs > > > > > > > > > > > > > sembly>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > variable fonts, CSS strokes and more.[63] > > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_histor > > > > y#cite > > > > > > > > > > > > > _n > > > > > > > > > > > > > ote-63> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But then in Safari 13 there are quite a lot of changes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-releas > > > > e- > > > > > > > > > > > > > notes/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > safari-13-release-notes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hm in terms of releasing, I am not sure, would be good > > > > to get > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > few more > > > > > > > > > > > > > users to confirm on Safari13. > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the issue is really a generic Safari13 limitation or > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-a > > > > f6f- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4903 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9 > > > > faf- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 38475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:38, Maxim Solodovnik > > > > > > > > > > > > > <solomax666@gmai > > > > > > > > > > > > > l.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll try to find newer iMac, but have no idea where > > > > ATM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :((( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be on vacation 1-15 August without any access > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > internet (maybe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > occasional access to mobile internet) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought to release before my vacation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think it is possible? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:35, seba.wag...@gmail.com < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm using Safari 13 and it doesn't work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I think I'm not alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-a > > > > f6f- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4903 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9 > > > > faf- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 38475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:34, Maxim Solodovnik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <solomax666@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Sebastian, All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just was able to get real iMac to test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has Safari 11 (and I have no rights to update > > > > it) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything works as expected > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tested demo-next as-is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My steps were > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) on Safari enter restricted room > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) start Audio only broadcasting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Result: green sound bar is jumping > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) enter same room Ubuntu 20.04+Chromium latest > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Result: I can hear the audio in the room > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will have access to the iMac for couple more > > > > hours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please let me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if I should do any additional tests > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 04:32, seba.wagner@gmail.c > > > > om > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <seba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As reported in a few email discussions: Safari > > > > on iOS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does not capture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > audio. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We could establish that playback is fine. But > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > capturing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > audio does not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are currently two tickets we have: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - OPENMEETINGS-2277 - Fixing the capture of > > > > audio on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > conference room (some other subject but we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > established > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that that's the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > root > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cause) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - OPENMEETINGS-2412 - Fixing the capture of > > > > audio on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > setup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > testing tool > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are various discussions where some think > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > code change on our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would fix it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure about that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There seems to be even the official webRTC > > > > samples > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > broken for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See for example webRTC samples section: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/ge > > > > tuserm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ia/audio/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > => Works in Chrome/iOS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > => Fails in Safari/iOS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also started a discussion at discuss-webRTC : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/discuss- > > > > > > > > > > > > > webrtc/c/XBeiy3GpVLg/m/kbsC > > > > > > > > > > > > > U25IBgAJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my opinion: Fixing this issue inside > > > > OpenMeetings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rather > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > complex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a lot of other code. So I would like > > > > to see > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > simple minimal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > code > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > example to start with. If that works fine, I'm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > convinced we can fix it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenMeetings too! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are there other opinions or ideas on how to > > > > approach > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is no reply or not an answer on > > > > discuss- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webRTC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to interview people at Kurento mailing lists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-a > > > > f6f- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4903 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9 > > > > faf- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 38475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > -- > > > Best regards, > > > Maxim > > > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim > > -- Best regards, Maxim
