Yes, what I want is that limiting it to only capital letters and informing
the user accordingly is a fantastic idea.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 11:54 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well,
> the info text is just a label, site admin can re-translate/customize it
> (upgrade might be an issue here ...)
>
> Additionally we might add `captchaStartLetter` `captchaEndLetter` to every
> language here
>
> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml
> with default of 'A'-'Z' for all languages
>
> site admin can change this (upgrade will still be an issue ...)
> WDYT?
>
> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 13:16, Robert Savickas <robsavic...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I just realized that I should offer this clarification for some of our
>> friends, to avoid any misunderstandings:
>>
>> "terrific" means "wonderful"
>>
>> "terrific" does NOT mean "terrible"!
>>
>> English is a fun language.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 01:11 Robert Savickas <robsavic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Maxim, thank you. That would be terrific! Robert
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 00:39 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Would it help if Capital letters will be used instead of small ones?
>>>> And maybe there will be text like: Captcha consist of English letters
>>>> 'A' - 'Z' only ....
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 02:49, Robert Savickas <robsavic...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Friends,
>>>>>
>>>>> My users, some of whom use non-Latin alfabets, have no problem with
>>>>> using Latin letters in the captcha.
>>>>>
>>>>> My current problem with the captcha, shared by my users is that the
>>>>> characters are often hard to recognize. Capital I vesus small l.  Or
>>>>> capital I verus ].  Or m versus n. Or g versus q.  Often, the letters are
>>>>> sufficiently deformed so as to be difficult not only to Robot, but also to
>>>>> Robert and other humans to distinguish.  As a result, several captchas are
>>>>> often needed till a person can get it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Granted, it is a terrific tool for teaching folks how to have
>>>>> patience, highly recommended. But sometimes, folks are under the time
>>>>> pressure to enter the meeting (now, why do they try to connect only in the
>>>>> very last minute, that's a separate question)...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020, 08:48 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> the bad news: there seems to be no universal way to determine
>>>>>> alphabet by language
>>>>>> the ugly news: there are languages without alphabet ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> start and end character can be manually specified here
>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another option might be to made this range _optional_
>>>>>> so 'a' - 'z' will be used if else is not specified ....
>>>>>> Not sure is someone will bother to specify different range ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but I'm not sure how good is this idea :(((
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Robert what kind of difficulties your user have with the captcha?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 20:28, Ali Alhaidary <
>>>>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We can write the language name on the 'new user' or 'change
>>>>>>> password'
>>>>>>> screens ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/2/20 4:24 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>> > It is definitely can be localized
>>>>>>> > unfortunately this might lead to issues with guessing the text
>>>>>>> > for ex. many letters in Russian looks exactly as in English but the
>>>>>>> > text will not be equal :((
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 19:05, Ali Alhaidary <
>>>>>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> If no votes are collected, can we localize it?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31828048/how-to-set-localization-in-google-recaptcha
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On 12/2/20 2:59 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Any more votes?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On 12/1/20 2:22 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> I am with it :-)
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On 12/1/20 2:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> And as usual I'll add such switch if there will be enough votes
>>>>>>> for it
>>>>>>> >> while I, personally, will not recommend to use it
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 13:14, Ali Alhaidary <
>>>>>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>> True, one can not always get what he loves :-)
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> On 11/30/20 9:12 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Well,
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> I'm not a big fan of such "enhancements"
>>>>>>> >>> with all these options password "can be 'qwerty' again" ....
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 12:58, Ali Alhaidary <
>>>>>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>> I would love it to be an option like caps and special
>>>>>>> characters, especially with the difficulty of RTL users like ours :-)
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> On 11/30/20 8:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Hello Robert,
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> it is currently impossible without code modification
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 14:37, Robert Savickas <
>>>>>>> robsavic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>> Dear Maxim,
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Is there a way to disable captcha when changing the password?
>>>>>>> The images are often difficult to read, and many users have to reset the
>>>>>>> captcha image a few times, till they finally get it.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>> >>>>> Robert
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 01:15 Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> I have added notifications to OM (as part of
>>>>>>> OPENMEETINGS-2190)
>>>>>>> >>>>>> Could you please  take a look at demo-next and tell me WDYT?
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> maybe it should be improved somehow?
>>>>>>> >>>>>> text, icon, anything else :)
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> --
>>>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> >>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>>> >>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> >>>> Maxim
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>>> >>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> >>> Maxim
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>>> >> Best regards,
>>>>>>> >> Maxim
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Maxim
>>>>
>>>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>

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