Hello All,

the plan will be:
1) captcha range will be added to this [1] file
2) by default it will be 'A'-'Z'

If 'A'-'Z' is not appropriate for your language, please send me the range
specific to your language
NOTE: this should be the range i.e. unicode code for first letter should be
less than code for the second one
codes can be checked for ex. here http://www.unicode.org/charts/

Thanks in advance

[1]
https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml

On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 23:59, Robert Savickas <robsavic...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, what I want is that limiting it to only capital letters and informing
> the user accordingly is a fantastic idea.
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 11:54 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well,
>> the info text is just a label, site admin can re-translate/customize it
>> (upgrade might be an issue here ...)
>>
>> Additionally we might add `captchaStartLetter` `captchaEndLetter` to
>> every language here
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml
>> with default of 'A'-'Z' for all languages
>>
>> site admin can change this (upgrade will still be an issue ...)
>> WDYT?
>>
>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 13:16, Robert Savickas <robsavic...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just realized that I should offer this clarification for some of our
>>> friends, to avoid any misunderstandings:
>>>
>>> "terrific" means "wonderful"
>>>
>>> "terrific" does NOT mean "terrible"!
>>>
>>> English is a fun language.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 01:11 Robert Savickas <robsavic...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maxim, thank you. That would be terrific! Robert
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 00:39 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Would it help if Capital letters will be used instead of small ones?
>>>>> And maybe there will be text like: Captcha consist of English letters
>>>>> 'A' - 'Z' only ....
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 02:49, Robert Savickas <robsavic...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Friends,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My users, some of whom use non-Latin alfabets, have no problem with
>>>>>> using Latin letters in the captcha.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My current problem with the captcha, shared by my users is that the
>>>>>> characters are often hard to recognize. Capital I vesus small l.  Or
>>>>>> capital I verus ].  Or m versus n. Or g versus q.  Often, the letters are
>>>>>> sufficiently deformed so as to be difficult not only to Robot, but also 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> Robert and other humans to distinguish.  As a result, several captchas 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> often needed till a person can get it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Granted, it is a terrific tool for teaching folks how to have
>>>>>> patience, highly recommended. But sometimes, folks are under the time
>>>>>> pressure to enter the meeting (now, why do they try to connect only in 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> very last minute, that's a separate question)...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020, 08:48 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the bad news: there seems to be no universal way to determine
>>>>>>> alphabet by language
>>>>>>> the ugly news: there are languages without alphabet ....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> start and end character can be manually specified here
>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another option might be to made this range _optional_
>>>>>>> so 'a' - 'z' will be used if else is not specified ....
>>>>>>> Not sure is someone will bother to specify different range ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but I'm not sure how good is this idea :(((
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Robert what kind of difficulties your user have with the captcha?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 20:28, Ali Alhaidary <
>>>>>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We can write the language name on the 'new user' or 'change
>>>>>>>> password'
>>>>>>>> screens ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/2/20 4:24 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>> > It is definitely can be localized
>>>>>>>> > unfortunately this might lead to issues with guessing the text
>>>>>>>> > for ex. many letters in Russian looks exactly as in English but
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> > text will not be equal :((
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 19:05, Ali Alhaidary <
>>>>>>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >> If no votes are collected, can we localize it?
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31828048/how-to-set-localization-in-google-recaptcha
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> On 12/2/20 2:59 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Any more votes?
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> On 12/1/20 2:22 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> I am with it :-)
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> On 12/1/20 2:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> And as usual I'll add such switch if there will be enough votes
>>>>>>>> for it
>>>>>>>> >> while I, personally, will not recommend to use it
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 13:14, Ali Alhaidary <
>>>>>>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>> True, one can not always get what he loves :-)
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> On 11/30/20 9:12 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> Well,
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> I'm not a big fan of such "enhancements"
>>>>>>>> >>> with all these options password "can be 'qwerty' again" ....
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 12:58, Ali Alhaidary <
>>>>>>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>> I would love it to be an option like caps and special
>>>>>>>> characters, especially with the difficulty of RTL users like ours :-)
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> On 11/30/20 8:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> Hello Robert,
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> it is currently impossible without code modification
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 14:37, Robert Savickas <
>>>>>>>> robsavic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>> Dear Maxim,
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>> Is there a way to disable captcha when changing the password?
>>>>>>>> The images are often difficult to read, and many users have to reset 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> captcha image a few times, till they finally get it.
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>> >>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 01:15 Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> I have added notifications to OM (as part of
>>>>>>>> OPENMEETINGS-2190)
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Could you please  take a look at demo-next and tell me WDYT?
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> maybe it should be improved somehow?
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> text, icon, anything else :)
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>>>> >>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> >>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>>>> >>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> >>> Maxim
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>>>> >> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> >> Maxim
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

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