Ceki,

I do understand your reasoning, and thank you for your quick response.

And since Logback natively implements SLF4J, its API will also not be 
changed to include any new JSE 5 features, correct? Nor will new method 
signatures specific to just Logback be created for this (if I chose to use 
Logback without SLF4J)?

This is unfortunate for those who have been using JSE 5 for some time now, 
and still have not been able to fully take advantage of its features 
(especially when it comes to the work of tedious logging). 

I was really excited about SLF4J/Logback when this project started, but 
without these new features (which would simplify and reduce my coding 
effort) it just doesn't seem worth it to convert to this logging framework 
(even though I really appreciate the clean Logback implementation). 
Perhaps Log4J 2.0 will incorporate these considerations since it will be 
JSE 5 dependent. If it does, I'd have to bet that many people will jump 
ship on SLF4J/Logback in favor of Log4J. It really is too bad that the 
Logback API cannot be changed before it reaches version 1.0.



-Chris




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Hello Christopher,

Users keep asking for varagrs [1]. However, as I stated at the time,
given that SLF4J is intended used by all sorts of libraries, the
dependency graph between libraries and SLF4J can be surprisingly
complex. In particular, it would not be unusual for the dependency
graph to have multiple dependencies on SLF4J with *different*
versions. Thus, we have to be extra-careful and conservative when
changing the SLF4J API.

I regret to disappoint our users but except for bug fixes, do not
expect any changes to the SLF4J API.

[1] http://www.slf4j.org/pipermail/user/2008-January/000468.html


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> Has there been any more discussion lately about updating the API to 
> support varargs and perhaps printf?


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